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It's yet another broad daylight robbery: A woman returning home with bags of groceries was was robbed yesterday morning at 108th Street and Central Park West. While early reports said that she had been follwed, the NY Post says the robber posed as a tenant, fumbling and looking for keys in the apartment building vestibule. After the woman let him in, he followed her up to her apartment, threatening with a fun gun, demanded that she and her fiance, who had been sleeping on a couch, turn over their wallets, and then he shot the fiance a few times (some reports stated he was shot in the "abdomen and buttocks" and others said "hand, abdomen, and chest"). Given that many New Yorkers don't know their neighbors, Gothamist can sort of understand why one would want to seem neighborly and open the door for someone else. But the waiting-in-the-vestibule is an old trick - the "push-in"; it's even listed in the NYPD's suggestions for Crime Prevention. It doesn't hurt to read them again. [And to revisit the Central Park robbery the other week, the NYPD has tips for the Park Enthusiast: "Don't wear excessive amounts of jewelry or carry large amounts of cash."]
The Post also adds when the robber didn't leave after they handed over their money, the fiance said, "Are you going to shoot me now?" to which the robber replied, "You're a real wisecrack" and then shot him. Gothamist doesn't know what was going through the minds of the victims, but we're guessing it's probably best not to say anything.
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Isn't that waht Nicole DuFresne said before they shot her too?
I can't believe they were threatened with a fun.
"If you don't hand over your cash, I will MAKE YOU ENJOY YOURSELVES. YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD TIME."
Wow, that didn't take long.
I predict with with morbid certainty comments like:
(sigh)
Let the Arm Chair quarterbacking begin...
My thought:
"when the robber didn't leave after they handed over their money"
Could it be: They thought they were about to die? Shocking! Perhaps they should have just said: "Anything else we can do for you?? Please??"
Me: Anyone invades my home, I'm not sure what I'd try to do, but I know this: I won't second guess the victims.
Threatening them with a "fun"? Oh! Gun. That typo had me scratching my head, wondering what type of robber/murderer uses threats of fun...
Clearly, I have a case of the Mondays. Actually, I've been battling some allergies and a gold, so when I say "gun," it doesn't really sound like gun. Thanks for understanding, guys!
Of course, S.D., let's withhold any and all judgement! Just like stepping in before anyone says ANYTHING (or did you take that initial question as some totally loaded insinuation?) and getting all pre-judgemental on what you expect people to say. Can't have it both ways, el sensitivo.
Of course, S.D., let's withhold any and all judgement! Just like stepping in before anyone says ANYTHING (or did you take that initial question as some totally loaded insinuation?) and getting all pre-judgemental on what you expect people to say. Is this your preemptive strike to stifle a dialog?
You may think victims don't deserve to be second guessed.
I think it's still stupid to ask a criminal with a gun: "Whatcha gonna do, shoot me?"
stupid!
generally speaking, asking people with weapons if they intend to use said weapons on you while they're aimed in your direction is unwise.
is that nonjudgemental enough?
That's what you get for living practically in the Bronx.
those wacky black people, why can't they get a real job instead of robbing people like a stereotypical one.
Well seriously now--what SHOULD you say in that sort of situation? Do you just stand there and wait for the guy to leave? Ask him to leave? Offer him coffee? It's quite possible the guy said "are you going to shoot me now?" in a tone of fear, not challenge.
I wonder how many of you wiseasses have been mugged or robbed. It's easy to be so smug and condescending in situations you don't know or understand.
i've been mugged and i've been smug. it's still stupid to taunt an armed robber with 'wisecracks'. taunting S.D. is a whole other story though.
hijiki, I'm touched...
;)
"It's easy to be so smug and condescending in situations you don't know or understand."
it would seem an understanding of the saturday afternoon matinee version of firearm mechanics would indicate one of the more dire possibilities resulting from asking the obvious of the unbalanced.
it's not smugness nor condescension, but bafflement. especially in the wake of the high profile death of dufresnes (sp?) one would think a certain cause and effect sequence would have been transmitted.
while we may all find ourselves asking deeply stupid questions in moments of crisis, panic or danger, this does not make the questions any less stupid.
then again, if nyc didn't have draconian gun laws, people might be better aquainted with firearms as a general fact of life and understand that they're built expressly for shooting things. perhaps it is an issue of education after all.