Bars for the Drinking and the Smoking

New Yorkology helps solidify the list of Manhattan bars you can smoke in! NYology asked the city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (someday, Gothamist will figure out what mental hygiene means because we know that we can't wash our brains) to compile the list, and here are six more bars, added to Karma Lounge in the East Village and cigar bar Club Macanudo on East 63rd that we knew about: Carnegie Bar & Books at 156 West 56th Street, Lexington Bar and Books at 1020 Lexington Avenue, Circa Tabac at 32 Watts Street, Kush at 183 Orchard Street, Hudson Bar and Books at 636 Hudson Street, and Grand Havana Room at 666 Fifth Avenue, 39th Floor. Many of these places are allowed to skirt the smoking ban because they also sell cigars; some charge a "smoking cover" if you don't buy a cigar, because a certain amount of the revenue needs to come from cigar sales. Also, you can smoke in the Campbell Apartment at Grand Central.

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"Also, you can smoke in the Campbell Apartment at Grand Central."

Is that still true? My girlfriend and I were there a month ago. She smokes (I don't), and asked the waitress if smoking was still allowed. The waitress said no, and no one else was smoking.

We were up in the balcony, an area where she'd been allowed to smoke before.

Circa Tabac is a very cool place, but beware! There was a $5/cigar "cutting charge" that wasn't advertised when I went there. A little bothersome, and not just because it knocked me from two drinks down to one. Still, it was nice to relax and have a cigar in a bar, rather than outside. For the six I have per year, the charge is okay. Just would have been nice to know in advance.

Nice to see that, after months and months and months, the smoking ban still comes across as an idealogical pebble in Gothamist's shoe. Even for site editors who don't smoke.

That makes me warm and fuzzy, in a "this place hasn't changed a bit" way.

Some of these places are pretty nice. And they're also quite crowded at times. That's understandable; there should probably be at least 5 more around.

And I'm still immensely grateful that the rest of the bars in NYC are now much more tolerable for us straight-up alcoholics.

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Once Spring comes, Patroon restaurant should also have the rooftop bar open, where smoking is allowed:

http://www.patroonrestaurant.com/rooftop.html

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My wife and I were at Campbell Apartment on Saturday night, and I didn't see anyone smoking. There were no ashtrays on the tables, either. We'd never been there before, and I thought it looked like a place where smoking should be allowed. It must be the old-time atmosphere and drinks. But smokers should have to use cigarette holders or smoke giant cigars; regular cigarettes would look too modern.

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Didn't Kush move from Orchard to Chrystie? It's definitely not on Orchard anymore.

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