NYPD Says Cause Of Subway Fire Unknown

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Subway riders are still grousing about the C-line suspension, even though C will be running again in a few months. One of the main reasons might be because having the C, plus part of the A out, many other subway lines are affected (the A is running on the F/V), making everyone's subway commute feel twice as long and harrowing in a way only the MTA can do. One person told Newsday, "the rats look bigger, too."

But the big news is that the police won't say that the fire was caused by a homeless person. One cynical rider told the media:

"That's suspicious as it is. You think a homeless man is going to stop a whole system? It's probably some faulty wiring or antiquated systems they had for a long time that they never bothered to check up on. It blew up on them and maybe they used this homeless guy as an excuse."
Given that there are 100 track fires a month, who knows what shape the signal relay rooms are? And what about the homeless in the subways? Some feel there are less homeless in the subways, since there have been less homeless subway deaths, but a former transit official admitted to the NY Times that they didn't really pay too much attention - they just wanted to chase the "undesirables" out. Gothamist hopes the truth about the fire will come to the public's attention; we were worried that there would be an anti-homeless backlash. And while there has been opposition to using a computerized system, such as the one the L train will be upgraded to this summer, given how antiquated the current system is, this may be an opportunity for the MTA to accelerate plans to computerize the 722 miles of track.

Related: The NY Times on the fate of real estate on the A/C line: One broker puts it into perspective for the rich people bitching, "If you have money to plunk down for an apartment on Central Park West, you can take a cab or the 1 train or hire a car service. You won't be flinging yourself out of your Central Park apartment window." Gothamist wonders if that's true and if apartments with a history of suicide sell for less.

Diagram from NYCSubway's single-line signal explanation

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Do I get to say "I told you so" now? Yes, yes, I believe I do. :)

most have probably already seen them, but the documentary film 'dark days' and the book 'the mole people' are both great to get a sense of how people live under the city. they also hilight how incredibly easy it would be for a determined criminal to infiltrate the subway system.

This would be a perfect headline to rip from if Dick Wolf ever decides to do Law & Order: Transit Bureau.

Me, I think the real arsonists are behind the grassy knoll. I don't buy the Lone Homelessman theory.

The comment when this was first reported that the rooms can't be fireproofed was hysterical. Has anyone ever heard of fire suppression systems using fluorocarbon gases like Halon 1301 (although Halon itself is now banned because of the ozone layer)? You can find them in any serious equipment room, except those run by the MTA.

I really dig the old-school Mac OS 9 diagram! Killer old un-antialiased Times and Geneva in lovely, crispy small point sizes. Sorry, just having a little typegasm...

Does anyone know what app may have been used to make this? Could it actually have been some version of MacDraw?

Does anyone have a link to the full-size original?

>>>>most have probably already seen them, but the documentary film 'dark days' and the book 'the mole people' are both great to get a sense of how people live under the city.

Subway maven Joe Brennan has largely debunked Jennifer Toth's "Mole People"

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/
abandoned/mole-people.html

www.forgotten-ny.com

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