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Gothamist Visits Per Se

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There are times when you can't pass up an opportunity, even though you know it's not the smartest thing in the world for you to do. There are times when you take advantage of a situation that is in front of you and you deal with the consequences later. Saturday night was one of those times. Thanks to the magic of the blizzard, Gothamist had the chance to experience an evening at Per Se.

Notice that we didn't say "eat at," or even "dine at" -- no, this was an all-out experience. And it was everything a fine dining experience at a four star restaurant should be: formal, but not pretentious, seamless service, knowledgeable, friendly, and professional staff, and food that was out-of-this-world.

Our party of seven managed to get a 10:00 reservation, and immediately upon arrival we were made to feel welcome and comfortable. The dining room was stately, but not stuffy, and our table by the window offered us a view of the snow falling peacefully onto Central Park below. We were given a choice of the five course or the nine course chef's tasting menu ($175 each; note that they also offer an all-vegetable tasting menu for you vegetarian types), and were advised that the entire party needed to opt for the same menu, although special needs and preferences could be accomodated. After some brief negotiations among our group, we selected the nine course menu, and after some consultation with Andre, the sommelier, we put ourselves into his capable hands for wine pairings with each course. And then, we let go and began our journey.

We have to admit that we weren't even certain that we were capable of writing about our visit; for a great deal of the evening, Gothamist and our dining companions were at a loss for words to describe the sensations we were experiencing -- the combinations of striking presentations, contrasting and complementing tastes and textures, the bouquets of the wines, the adeptness with which the wine and food were paired, and the gracefulness of the choreography of the service. We'll see how it goes.

It began with an amuse bouche of a small, black sesame-studded cone filled with salmon tartare and crème fraîche -- it looked like a delicate mini ice cream cone and tasted light and fresh with a tinge of onion. Our taste buds started buzzing and we were off to a great start. As our first course arrived, in one smooth motion, servers surrounded our table, placed our dishes down in unison, and simultaneously lifted small ceramic lids to reveal "Oysters & Pearls," a poached Island Creek oyster in a creamy sabayon with pearl tapioca and a dollop of ossetra caviar. Our giddy anticipation gave way to sighs of pleasure. Each course followed with the same carefully choreographed service, at a genuinely leisurely pace, allowing us to fully appreciate each course without feeling rushed, tasting the food and the wine individually and then together, and chat with our dining companions in between our eye-rolling and groans of enjoyment.

For our second course, several of us had opted for a terrine of foie gras, heavily infused with truffles, served with toasted brioche, and paired with a 1994 Chateau D'Yquem sauterne. Since we had gotten to taste a Chateau D'Yquem at the PJ Wine Grand Tasting, we knew we were in for a treat, and to taste it with the foie gras terrine was sheer indulgence -- decadence at its best.

2005_01_food_perselobster.jpgNext, a fillet of Pacific mo'i with crispy skin sitting on a bed of glazed heirloom radishes and tokyo turnips and drizzled with meyer lemon aigre-doux (sweet and sour sauce). Although the fish was somewhat salty on its own, when we took a forkful that included all of the ingredients, the saltiness subsided, and the flavors balanced beautifully.

The following three courses were a hat trick as far as we were concerned: lobster tail cuit sous vide (a cooking technique where ingredients are sealed in vacuum pouches) with herb salad and lobster vinagrette perched on a small potato cake; a rare slice of Liberty Valley duck breast atop brussel sprout leaves, bartlett pear relish and "fois gras mignonette" sauce (which we had to sop up with our bread, lest we miss out on a drop); and a rib-eye of Elysian Fields Farm lamb en persillade (seasoned with parsley and garlic), with a cassoulet of pole beans and thyme-infused olive oil.

2005_01_food_perselamb2.jpgThis is where the commentary ability fades. At this point in the meal, we were so wrapped up in the flavors, the textures, the presentation, the wine, and truthfully, the great company, and the magical feel of the evening, that we are now hard-pressed to recount it back with an appropriate degree of descriptiveness. Each component flowed together seamlessly, providing for one of the best dining experiences we have ever had. Every detail was so well-honed: the high-quality ingredients, the bread selections, the two types of butter (one seemed extra creamy), the pace of the meal, the plates (white, simple, elegant), the silverware (our "Oysters & Pearls" came with a strikingly beautiful mother-of-pearl spoon), and the service.

The hat trick courses were followed by the cheese course, ossau iraty, a little-known French semi-soft sheeps' milk cheese over roasted sweet peppers and marinated eggplant, and after that, the sorbet course (our only course without a wine pairing): black tea sorbet with yogurt panna cotta, beet "foam," and a crunchy beet topping that had the texture of Nerds, but definitely not the taste.

2005_01_food_chocmint2.jpgOur dessert course was the only one that met with some degree of displeasure from our group. The "Mint Chocolate Chip" was a Valrhona chocolate brownie, accompanied by a spearmint sorbet, eucalyptus-infused ganache, warm mocha mousse, and caramel-chocolate croustillant. Although the brownie was a hit with everyone, we were split on the spearmint sorbet ("tastes like mouthwash," said one in our group) and we thought the eucalyptus was somewhat medicinal tasting. We happily stuck to the brownie and the sorbet.

At that point, sipping on our Dow's 1985 vintage port, we thought we were done. We had eaten nine courses. But no -- along came miniature crème brulées, and fig pôts de crème in small silver pitchers, a tiered tray of mignardises, filled with nougat, truffles, and buttery shortbread. And no, still not done. As the plates were cleared, each of us was given a small silver plate. What else could we possibly want or need? We proceeded to be presented with a selection of chocolates, each more exotic than the next, filled with everything from pistachio, to peanut butter, to wasabi, to jasmine, to Mexican hot chocolate, which had quite a kick to it.

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And finally, four and a half hours later, we were done. The bill was definitely steep, especially given our wine pairing option, and we had to stifle a small gasp when we saw our portion of the check, but for us, it was worth every penny. We were even given a printed menu annotated with the wines that had been chosen for us, along with a small bag of meringue sandwich cookies, topped with a small brown bow with "per se" printed on it in silver.

There has been some discussion among us over the past few days -- was it, in fact, the best meal ever? For some of us, yes, for some of us, no, but for all of us, it was certainly up there. If you are able to get a reservation, and are willing to part with the money, you should go. We don't know if and when we'll get to go again, but we are thrilled to have had the opportunity. Many thanks to the blizzard, our fabulous dining companions, and the amazingly knowledgeable and impeccably professional staff at Per Se for an outstanding experience.

New York Magazine review.

New York Times' Frank Bruni's four-star review.

And if you can't make it to Per Se for whatever reason, you can always try Per Se's butter-poached lobster at home, thanks to our own Joe DeSalazar.

Per Se, 10 Columbus Circle, Time Warner Center, 4th Floor, 212-823-9335. Open daily for dinner; Fri-Sun, lunch; reservations are required.

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  • And on that note . . . thanks to everyone for participating in the very lively, interesting, and mostly productive discussion. We've broken a record for the most comments ever on a food post. Hooray! In the future, however, please refrain from personally attacking 1) the author; 2) other commenters. We have a policy on this. Please read it.

    Comments are now closed.

    --Laren

  • Robert

    L'Emmerdeur,

    Bravo!!!

    The next time my wife and I are in the city I would gladly buy you a drink if your free.

    On second thought maybe even dinner at Per Se.

    And what the hell, Laren can join us too.

  • Dear Carl:

    1. Belittling me by referring to me as "He/she/it" - quite mature. Not surprising that you attempt to objectify me by using "it". Did you learn this in the Al Goldstein School of Semiotics? Classy. I'm a "he". I link to my site, where you can see my real name: Dimitri. I stand by my opinions. I don't impose them on others. I'll leave the bombing of abortion clinics and overpriced restaurants to you.

    2. I get my coffee from the cart outside my building. In fact, I refuse the free cup I can get with my breakfast so I can give him the business, because he's a nice guy.

    3. Lack of nuance: guilty as charged. Greeks don't like to complicate life; we keep things simple, so that we may enjoy it. That way, we avoid becoming miserable, guilt-ridden ideologues. This is why everyone loves the Greeks, even our enemies. This is one of the most important reasons everyone hates Americans.

    4. Equating spending too much on a meal with moral bankruptcy is pathetic. Attempting to make me feel guilty for doing so is an act of aggression. I live my life well. I am a good person. I help those who need it or request it, I don't screw people over (even when they SO deserve it). In fact, I probably live a more Christian life (as Jesus intended it) than most devout Christians, and I don't even believe.

    THIS is how you judge the status of one's morality, NOT by whether they indulge their palate with a meal whose cost is unconventional. By questioning my morality for eating the occasional expensive dinner, you nullify everything else I have ever done, as if I have committed murder.

    5. "Not anchored to community". There's more community in my family than in this whole borough.

    6. "Pursuing self-satisfaction at all costs". If you refer to the monetary cost, who the hell are you to dictate how I should spend my hard-earned money? Would it be acceptable if I spent the same amount on a television? How about at a casino? Please draft a list of appropriate purchase items, and then we'll get the Church Elders to approve it.

    As for "moral" costs, IT'S JUST FUCKING DINNER, not the massacre of a Rwandan village. And who said "at all costs"? I haven't eaten at Per Se, because these places usually let me down when compared to the cost. That doesn't mean I judge Laren for going; in fact, I applaud her for risking such a large amount of money, because I know how upsetting it would have been if she hadn't enjoyed it, or if it hadn't lived up to the hype. "At all costs" sounds like they are sacrificing endangered species for our culinary pleasure, and cooking them over a slow-roasting fire lit by Dali canvases.

    7. Movies, art, music: You contradict yourself. I am as critical of these as I am of every single meal, at any price. However, I DON'T question the wealthy collector who spends millions for a piece of art. I don't point a finger at him and accuse him of "moral bankruptcy". If I think the piece sucks, I will say so, but then I am judging his taste, not his moral code.

    You didn't say "Per Se sucks". You didn't say "Laren sucks for wasting her money in an overpriced restaurant like Per Se". You said "Laren is immoral for eating at Per Se".

    8. "Unbridled hedonist". I'm not Caligula.

  • i'm not too concerned with how expensive anyone's "enjoyment" is, but as to the jealousy issue--there is a reason everyone hates martha stewart and was glad to see her humiliated and jailed. there's a reason marie antoinette had her head cut off. it's human nature, especially when someone's always talking about how great their luxurious life is. call it jealousy or pettiness or whatever, but your words won't stop the guillotine. there is a reason the rich have learned to be discreet.

  • Carl Marks

    L'Emmedeur seems a little tetchy. Perhaps a few many $10 cups of coffee? s/he/it even concludes his/her/its non-argument with an implied threat at the end more appropriate to the craigslist than to a serious discussion.

    But that's just a demonstration of the lack of nuance and moral bankruptcy of the unbridled hedonist. Not anchored to community, pursuing self-satisfaction at all costs, L'emm and the others sharing that pov frequently (not always, mind you) refuse to reckon with the high price to be paid by a high price to be paid.

    Are the movies you see simply something you enjoy or not? The art? The music? Is it too much to ask that something like an excessive $440 dinner tab be subject to the same rigor through which we examine these other aspects of our culture?

    You may want to invest in that $100 cocktail tonight, L'emm. You need to calm your ad hominem rhetoric down.

  • Incorrect, Carl. She is furious that New York seems to have attracted a population of political ideologues who attempt to make us feel guilty about enjoying every day of our lives before our ashes are added to the garbage dump of history. Such people belong in the Bible Belt. New York is no longer The City That Never Sleeps, but The City That Bitches And Moans If It Doesn't Get Eight Hours.

    You people are succeeding in turning this city into the same bland, featureless, blighted purgatory most of the rest of the country has become. You're like an incurable disease, spreading your Grey Gospel of frugal misery and self-flagellation to the four corners of the Earth.

    The whole point of New York is that you can find EVERYTHING here: A cheap slice of pizza or a $20 individual pie, Broadway or off-off, and everyhting in between. If you want to live in a land of limited choices, go almost anywhere in rural America, where you are free to eat anything you want, as long as it's on McDonalds' menu. Better yet, go to Iran or Saudi Arabia, where excess is carefully hidden from view, and sin is punished by random removal of appendages.

    Why the fuck do you Americans always have to measure out a pound of guilt for every pound of pleasure in which you indulge? And when were the hungry, hard-working immigrants who believed in coming here for something better (like steak) replaced by jealous, whining, Birckenstock-clad asstards who want to make sure every person is eating gruel and soybeans?

    If you want to question "mindless conspicuous consumption", question your own. Leave mine alone, if you know what's good for you.

  • Carl Marks

    la depressionata (or whatever) helps make my point for me. I think s/he thinks s/he's being "transgressive" by "sticking it" to the "liberals" but it's just that sort of glorying in mindless conspicuous consumption that calls for questioning. Congratulations.

  • soso

    Oh no she definitely wasn't bragging:

    http://nyc.dodgeball.com/social/venue.php?id=17942

  • MisterZ

    I ate at Per Se a while back, and was completely underwhelmed. For $500, you'd think we'd have had the best meal ever. Frankly, I can't even remember anything I ate. Sure, everything was perfect, but it was completely unmemorable. Compare that to the meal we had at Masa's in San Francisco a couple of years ago; I'm still dreaming about the squab and the foie gras and the pea-puree ravioli and the rest of Ron Siegel's tasting menu (which cost less than half of Keller's). Compare also to a meal at Felidia over 10 years ago that is still remembered fondly.

    YMMV, of course, but for my money Per Se is wildly over-rated.

  • Scotty B

    Laren,

    I really enjoyed your review of this experience.

    Don't let the haters get you down.

    I can't afford a meal at Per Se but I still love reading about other people's good times.

  • mcf

    Lauren--

    Thanks for sharing your take on a phenomenal meal. For what it's worth, I'm in the camp that sometimes once-in-a-lifetime experiences are worth that kind of money. Me, I'd rather eat at Per Se (someday) than buy, say, new clothes, or a huge car. Or whatever. To each her own, people. To each her own.

  • flah--yes both of the bloggers you mention (expensive theater seats and expensive sports seats) would be flaunting and i would not read their blogs. and flaunting is not what 90% of blogs are about, i'd say more like 60%.

    robert--people were irked with the flauting even before the price was mentioned. it's obvious the meal was very expensive whether the exact price was listed or not. the correlation you suggest isn't there. when people demanded the exact price they were just demanding more specific evidence.

  • Fred Engels

    Carl, just wanted to say, love your stuff. Let's collaborate on something some time.

  • dave

    Maybe this has been said above, but imagine going out to Per Se for a special dinner and having some yo ho snapping flash pictures of thier water glass and the chocolates. I guess it could be worse, but still.

  • well, i can't afford this meal, so i'll live - er, dine - vicariously. not jealously or bitterly.

  • implications, subtexts and politics, o my!

    If you guys really want to freak out google ortolans, and I guess you don't want to hear about the dinner for 2 that cost me near 1200 bucks at Taillevant. Shit and I was saving that for Parisist.

  • flah

    $80 cheeseburgers and $100 cocktails are usually publicity stunts cooked up by marketers, not chefs, who want to draw attention to their restaurants (rember the omelette that cost over $1000? got a lot of press, but no one bought it because msot people know that eggs are cheap.).

    It's not how much one spends on one meal that's the issue, it's how much one spends in general and how one balances charity with indulgence. we react strongly to someone driving a Hummer because there are things we know about it - its poor gas mileage, bad handling, likelihood to kill pedestrians in an accident - and we wish someone would have made a more educated choice.

    so far in this discussion, no one has tried to deconstruct the menu at Per Se to show that the meal was not, in fact, worth the money paid for it, especially in comparison to other meals obviously there is a markup in all transactions, but what was the base price of the meal's ingredients. don't we also have to consider the professional training of the chef? if we pay lawyers $500/hr because they went to school, shouldn't some top-level, institute-educated chefs be able to charge top dollar for their services?

    considering the price of the meal and the likely training of those who prepared it, $440 might not be as bad a markup as the $20 most people pay for ironic t-shirts that probably cost $1 to make.

    I think there is a moral consideration to be made in all our purchases, sure, but no more so for a $400 meal than for a $4 cup of coffee. There are cheaper alternatives to both, but the quality of the less expensive versions are up for debate. if someone donated $10,000 to charity last year, would it then be acceptable for them to indulge in a $400 meal? how do we judge that balance? what if someone decided to save the money she normally spent on lunch at Subway each day, made her own sandwich, and put aside $5 a day towards a fancy meal at the end of the year? would that be acceptable?

    as far as flaunting one's experience, why, those of you who threw that criticism at laren have basically defined 90% of blogs. blogs are, at their nature, a display of one's experiences, opinions, etc. why do we not yell at the theater bloggers who go to see "the producers" or other shows at $100 a pop? shouldn't they mention underfunded arts programs in their reviews? what about a sports blogger who goes to a playoff game and then posts pictures taken from his $200 seats? are they not "flaunting" their experience of an event by posting that they went to see it? where is the line drawn? if laren had spent $200, $150 or $100 on her meal, would there have been an outcry?

    the fact is, in the face of so much world-wide suffering, any non-essential purchase could be considered immoral.

    also, how much recognition of other's suffering would she have had to mention for her post to be acceptable? my bet is that she was in a lose-lose situation as far as some readers are concerned. mentioning hungry people or tsunami victims in a food report on a blog would have been loudly decried as insensitive.

  • Robert

    People never fail to amaze me.

    First Laren never stated in the post what the finale cost was to a few dam near begged for a answer. Then Laren is accused of flaunting when you finely get a answer. WOW!

  • Cat

    Ya'll need to lighten up. Come out to the Bay Area and chill.

    Three of us treated ourselved to the French Laundry and what an experience!!! One of the top two restaurants I've been to (Masa's #1 in my book). I'm not the kind of girl who likes to dole out her duckets on food, I'd rather buy a new camera lens or something more tangible that I can physically cherish. But, I have to say, I don't regret spending my hard earned duckets on the tasty sensation that the French Laundry offered. I will always cherish the memory. Everything was splendid, except for the stinky Vacherin cheese that tasted smelled like DOO DOO, I almost died. The waiter was making this big production of twirling that stinky stuff in front of me and explaining what village in Spain that it came from. I was feeling like, get this shit out of my face NOW!!, but trying to keep a straight face. My friend had the nerve to taste it and it tasted exactly like it smelled.

  • bb

    I agree with cynthia in that it feels like lara was flaunting. I guess you can buy a $440 meal, but you still can't buy discretion or class.

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