Four More Years

This truly is a sad time in American history. Personally, I was behind John Kerry during the elections, and I do agree that Dubya has done a lot of wrong by the American people. but now that he's re-elected, God knows what's next. I have a bit of advice to all the red states. I hope, I sincerely hope that when things get worse, and the s**t hits the fan, that you all are ready and willing to admit you voted for this man. Personally, I think this election was rather dumb on both ends. On one hand, conservatives voted Bush based on the statement that he's "a good Christian man" (call from Alabama after first debate), and those who voted and unconditionally supported Kerry during this campaign got royally screwed when he conceded during the ballot investigation. Personally, I think the man could have won if he was to wait til the results were in. Not to mention, I feel sorry for every homosexual, every immigrant, everyone lower and middle class, and anyone of any ethnicity other than white or black, because they will all feel the full brunt of these next four years. I still love America, and I will stay and fight, but boy do we need help now. John Kerry, apparently, was not the answer, so we're going at this on our own.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but that's my point of view.

God Bless America.

this is hilarious, I believe you have all gone completely insane. reading this shit, you would think you are all so repressed, depressed, and disarrayed, that there may be a mass suicide in every state that went blue soon. are you really so full of yourselves that you think you are all who matters in this country. The lack of rationale is what turns people off to you, your rhetoric is so bombastic it makes you sound completely nuts.

i was in tears when i heard that kerry resigned. my brother is a marine. so far he has been lucky enough not to have been sent to IRaq. i know Kerry wouldn't have been perfect on Iraq--but that Idea that awol bush and his draft -dodger cheney could send my brother into that hell hole they created and now have 4 years to control my bro's fate--it's almost too much to handle.

Vote or Diebold!

Uh Chris. Where did I whine about the popular vote? 51% is hardly a mandate. Still, you wanted him, you got him. What's that old saying...be careful what you wish for...

I agree with TimN.

I did not vote for Bush and I"m doing my best to accept the reality that he will be our leader but I am VERY concerned about the course of our nation in the next four years. George W. Bush does not share represent my values. I am afraid for my rights as a woman, I am afraid for the rights of my gay friends and I am afraid for my friends you are over in Iraq fighting a losing war.

This IS a sad day in America when 'moral issues' are reportedly more important than a war.

Electronic voting with no paper trail and no independently examined security system (the companies that examined the diebold machines were paid by diebold)--just like the repubs wanted it--means that americans who are questioning the results are doing what any sane, discerning person would do. The voting system should be transparent and verifiable. It is not. It should be set up so that we can all agree that this was a fair vote. It is not.

I would actually feel better if I thought that the voting results were the real expression of the majority of voting Americans, but with the diebold voting machines coming from the company owned by the guy who said that he would deliver Ohio for Bush, what else do you expect me to think? I have close relatives in Texas, Lousianna, Florida, North and South Carolina, Georgia and California. They were all pro Kerry. Even my active duty and my relatives who are veterans were for Kerry--yard signs and all.

THe results as they are being reported just sound too perfect for Bush and since there is no way for the repubs to prove that the computer results were not tampered with and since several public interest groups have proven that it is possible to manipulate results without leaving a trail, then as far as i am concerned and until given hard evidence otherwise, I will assume that this election was stolen.

If your mother was dead of Alzheimer's when stem cells could have cured her you might feel differently. This election mattered. The issues mattered. It wasn't a case of "they're good men, we'll be all right." You wouldn't feel that way if you were gay, or unemployed, or holding a weapon and wearing a bullseye outside Fallujah. Better to wail because this meant something than to passivly collaborate.

Seriously:

Why do some people feel the need to act like complete babies over the results of this election?

I hold a huge difference of respect for people who are appropriately disappointed that the other party's candidate won as opposed to those who are crying bloody murder that the "asshole" won, that we should all move to Canada, that this is a sad day, that this country is screwed up now, that all those Bush voters stink... wahhh wahh wahhh! Please grow up.

Bush is not as bad as people make him out to be.

Kerry was not the solution to all of Bush's problems.

Both of them are respectable statesmen who made for sub-par presidential candidates. My hats off to both of them for their class in the last week of a heated election.

And a big PA-TOOEY! to all of the people who are acting like kindergarteners today. Yeah, there will be immature behavior on both sides post-election, but you'll see a ton more of it from the wave of childish Bush-haters out there.

I just want to say I'm saddened that the majority of people voted for Bush, and yes it sucks, but why do people say we should support the president now? it's american to have dissent.

Charlie, I've been fighting that fight since 1980. It's over. It's lost. The country is what it is now.

I've been trying to explain to everyone I know that the majority of people in this country don't vote on specific issues. Having grown up in the South in a rabidly Southern Baptist family and having spent time in the Midwest, I firmly believe that what I've been warning my fellow liberals about is true: the majority of people (by a small margin) want to live under an evangelical Christian theocracy that has no room for gays, single mothers, feminists or just plain old non-believers. Nothing short of the complete erosion of the secular state will make many Americans happy. I know I sound like a crazy conspiracy nut, but I really believe this is true.

Yes, Bush won. He motivated his base of rural america and evangelicals. The Republicans fight to win, the Democrats fight because they are 'right'. Urban America thinks middle America is a bunch of stupid hicks (ok, so they are..besides the point) and middle America hates Urban America. Problem is, when middle America turns out like they did...you urban folk ain't got a chance. Best to reach out to them and try to find some way to win them over.

In the meantime, I'm sick. I can't believe we get the leader we deserve.

And I'm not leaving America. I love America. I hate what this administration has done to it, but I'll be fighting to bring back her glory.

Still, piss on you..red states.

After all the lying and the Macchiavellian cynicism and all the crap of the last four years, 58 million Americans said, "That's okay."

Take a look. This is your country now.

Four More Wars!

You guys cry foul when you lose and "look forward to investigations" that is sad. If Bush lost and then wanted to launch an investigation you would cry foul abou that. Hey, there is one person who should be happy. Michael Moore. Now he can make another 100 million dollars off of all you idiots that agree with his insane conspiracy theories.

You applaud people for writing "assasinate the president", you complain that the voting is fixed (even though a record number of votes were recorded) and refuse to let Kerry "give up so easily". I am sick of the lot of you. Kerry didn't give up. he lost, because he wasn't the person to do the job. The people have spoken!

W 04 four more years!

Darned europians! I warm my heart with the thought of Barak Obama and of all of the investigations that should surface in the next few. BushCo is corrupt and not cigar in an intern corrupt.

Why would NYC be more suspectible to an attack now? Because Bush won? After all didn't Bin Laden say he would only attack states that voted for Bush? I don't understand how you people think. No matter WHO is president, terrorists and Bin Laden and everyone else is going to HATE US...that is what happens when you are one of the most powerful countries in the world.

BOYCOTT THE RED

Seeing as the Red States suck up a good portion of our Blue money, lets start turning off the tap. Boycott any business, company, etc. based in any Red state, especially those (and Oregon) which voted to "Protect Marriage".

Use the only power we have, money.

it's very disturbing that bush has won the popular vote by millions. the overwhelming redness in this country is scary.

Jeez, I don't know how to react. I find Daschle's loss almost as depressing. Can Democrats recover ever? How can Democrats take away from the Republican base like Republicans have taken away from Democrats? Is this country just heading for a civil war of sorts? And how inevitable is another attack on NY now? And how will the rest of the world react to such an attack?

I am stupified and depressed.

to see how far new york is from the greater view, I calculated (nyc - SI) and it's 77.5% for kerry, and the rest of the US minus the four boroughs is 47.9% for kerry (instead of %48.4)

and to SUMwon, your arguments clearly apply to clinton as much as bush. clinton was a demagogue much more then bush, and handicapped the activist/apologists. just ask any liberal charity how their activities are supported more now then under clinton.




but don't attack me, I voted for nader. I'm happy about two things:


1) bush as a lame duck will be a lot more fiscally conservative.


2) whiny europians didn't get their way.




And a couple rants:


1) I found the polls confusing, with series of numbers printed on the blank propositions and a small lever on the lower right corner (to activate write in ballots or something?). We need an open specification for electronic voting that computer security experts can critique, NIST should do this like they did AES, and multiple companies can all build to the specifications. ATM machines are 100% accurate, why cannot voting be.


2) We spend more per student on education then any other place in the world, more money alone will not help.


3) california is footing the bill for stem cell research so maybe people should consider not depending on the federal government for all solutions. PBS learned this leason with the NEA.


4) vote or die focused on battle ground states showing that your vote doesn't matter elsewhere. we are a federal republic not a democracy, and that's okay!


5) the next election will be the most important ever, really!

Does this mean they won't legalize Pot?

I'm switching to the Republican party. Does anyone know where theres good cow-tipping in NY?

I thought in 2000 that all you liberals screamed about the popular vote, yet now according to G. Mcfuzz it doesn't matter. You should all move to Canada. Give up on democracy and move to Canada so you can buy codeine over the counter and hunt bears or yaks or whatever it is they do up there. We don't need you down here. THis is America! the People have spoken now it is your job to support YOUR president ...or just move to Canada as so many of you threaten (idly) to do.

W 04

ok where's the drinking goin on tonight?

perhaps you libs should organize a protest or something.

yay to bigotry, warmongering and hate. Just think of supreme court justice he will appoint any day now... oh, and the future of the bush dynasty. Who's next? Jeb? Jenna?

this is bullshit. i can't believe kerry gave up so easily!

what a disaster. it's just so sad.

Ugh, look at his stupid smile on http://us.cnn.com

Spike I would hard call Bush's 51% the "greater" America.

get over yourselves and realize the east coast does not represent the beliefs of greater America

I am so sad. Where were the young voters? This is more than depressing.

I think if Bush visits New York or any of the northeastern US, the people will maul him like a dog

How about starting Canadaist, for those who will now be moving to Canada....

let the heavy drinking begin. oh dear.

Four more years! of an asshole who preys on fears and ignorance.

Four more years! of nepotism and favoritism.

Four more years! of policies that pursue an underlying agenda of racism, sexism, and the slow recession of human rights.

Four more years! of this administration's warmongering and lying.

Yay.

all that after hanging edwards out to dry last night?

what a spineless shit!

bush is still not my president!

God help us.