I can't believe the nerve of Guiliani, to compare GWB with Winston Churchill. In the first place, Churchill, as a young man, used his social connections to get into combat, was captured, escaped and became a war hero.

The former said " we're gonna git 'em' while the latter said "we shall fight them on the beaches"

Rudy forgot that Churchill lost the election after WWII because the English people were disgusted with his policies. I pray history repeats itself.

I can't believe the nerve of Guiliani, to compare GWB with Winston Churchill. In the first place, Churchill, as a young man, used his social connections to get into combat, was captured, escaped and became a war hero.

The former said " we're gonna git 'em' while the latter said "we shall fight them on the beaches"

Rudy forgot that Churchill lost the election after WWII because the English people were disgusted with his policies. I pray history repeats itself.

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy,

It makes me sad to see you sellout like this for the sake of bringing in the mid-american Republicans who (rightly?) think that anyone associated with New York has to be a social liberal at heart, or at least not-quite-so-libertarian-when-it-comes-to-social-issues.

McCain sold out big time, too. Maybe it's worse for McCain, who more obviously has a conscience and who hasn't had the sun shining on him in quite the same way Rudy's had it since 9/11 (wait, didn't he have an affair or something that we all conveniently forgot about? Wait, wasn't McCain a legitimate war hero who got dragged through the mud by Bush?).

The RNC makes me sad.

Noah

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In the picture, Guiliani looks like a someone having a temper tantrum. I do not see any sincerity in him. I think the term "9/11 profiteer" describes him well.

That's what I like about Gothamist... people usually respect each other's take on life in NY. As for Guiliani's foibles, I didn't mind all the crap they were digging up on Clinton because I didn't have to worry about finding a job. In the same vein, I could overlook Guiliani's missteps because I didn't find myself worrying about my father getting mugged in our own driveway anymore.

Fair enough, that's your Opinion and I respect it. Besides, I think I got my opinion accross Up near the Top.

;)

Overall national crime did decrease but I also remember NYC's decrease was much greater than the rest of the country's. After Guiliani New York was the safest big city in the country. It definitely wasn't that way before him.

I like Giuliani, and I liked his speech last night. I'd definitely vote for him to be president.

Giuliani made Queens Safer? Did he make the entire country safer since Crime Rates dropped Nationally while he was in Office?

King Hippo, I think Giuliani, like a good politician, will do what ever it takes to get elected, Including appeal to the Worst of us.

Remember the 1992 Police Rally @ City Hall over the CCRB? I do and It was pretty scary. Right now, he (And GW) are using the 9/11 tragedy as a Cheap Springboard for their Polictical Careers.

IMO, Giuliani and Schwarzenegger are cut from the same cloth: Say "I have the Answers! I'm Tough on Crime!" and let people beleive the Sound Bites.

I.E. Schwarzenegger's "Plan" to get California "Out" of debt is to basically go more into Debt by floating a Large Bond.

Remember when Giuliani supported the Nine Commandments in Public Schools? Whoops! Sorry, I Forgot about the Adultry One... (or did He?)

;)

Rudy is a tough call. I did feel safer in NYC while he was in office, so at whatever price he did lower crime (now that it's rising again, this stands out). He was terrible to the homeless. He was brutal and hotheaded in much of his politics and ignored first amendment rights most of the time. That said, he did handle 9/11 like a true leader - but did he rise to the occassion or did it sink to him?

I was proud of him on 9/11 - of his behavior and candor - but when I heard people yelling 'Rudy for President!" I was like, "Hold on a minute. Settle down. This IS Rudy.".

His speech at the RNC is every reason I disliked him. He is obviously going for a cabinet seat and not caring who or what he sells out to get it. Bush has done nothing about 9/11 and his 'war on terrorism' has only put us further in danger and made us more enemies. Almost getting killed on 9/11 was Rudy's shining moment - and I guess he wants more, because if Bush stays in the White House this country will see many more attacks. Only it won't just be Al Queda. Only Bush could take the sympathy every country had for us after 9/11 and turn it into pure hatred. Good job!

Fooliani-

I've lived in Queens all my life, and life during Giuliani's terms was much better and safer than it was during Dinkins.

As for Guiliani speaking at the event even though he disagrees with the top level democrats on some issues: IMO, I would think people would want to see more moderate politicians rising through the ranks. If guys like Guiliani, Bloomberg and Schwarzenegger need to schlep a little to gain more traction within the party, so be it. I would think it would be easier to change directions from the inside rather than alienate themselves and be just another one of the "outside voices" that they dismiss so easily.

Rion, My Humblest and sincere Apologies!

For a Moment I feared you were like that <shudder> Ann Coulter Woman who thinks disagreeing with the President is Treason!

(What's Wrong with her Anyways?!?!)

Guiliani helped led us through 9/11. Since then, he has become just another 9/11 profiteer. Get rid of him.

-- "ignoring the fact that it was a traitorous speech"?

-- Uh, no. That's called 1st Ammendment rights...

hellooooooo... giuliani quips about being a republican in nyc and now feeling at home at the rnc. i gripe about a brooklyn-born guy making that joke.

c'mon. it's a local gripe not a legal accusation. please keep the context. let me assure you that no need to bring out the big first-amendment-guns on that one.

Ms. Chung, why oh why do you like Giuliani? The "order" he brought to the city was accomplished by sweeping the problems under a rug. I guess you don't hang out in the other boroughs very much, do you. And "order" through police brutality is not worth it.

I watched part of it, but switched the channel when Rudy said his emotional gut reaction on 9/11 was "Thank God George W. Bush is president." Ugh, heartburn.

"you are correct and eloquent as always"?

You Flater me! God, I wish this was the case.

Fact is: I've been someone who argued Politics like it's a religion. I've since learned better.

Besides, it's fun debating points reasonably with people who CAN be reasonable. I know someone who Used to advocate a total revocation of Any Gun control. After publically asking Really loaded questions like, "Your against laws banning the Sale of Firearms to Convicted Rapists?!?!" (He Nearly choked on his Beer!) he came down from his position somewhat.

;)

Look: IMO, the world works a alot better when we look at it with some level of Humor.

S.D. I re-read your comments, and I was hastey in hitting the post button - you are correct and eloquent as always.

So...you know that the gay couple that Rudy stayed with if for gay marriage? I am gay, and I am against gay marriage...and I am also against stereotyping which have have just done.

Hey NY'er, How's it shaking?

I'm shocked, shocked, I say: you compleatly ignored my 1st Ammendment coment...

<sigh> I just despair sometimes...

Well, As I said IMO: There is something Comical about Republicans supporting a man that seems to be against or act contray to the recent Core issues of the GOP. Let's see, the "Gay Marraige ammendment (Please see my comments here), Gun Control, Marriage, etc.

I don't think the GOP or the Democract shoulds be a bunch of Knee jerkers. In fact I wish John McCain was President. I could vote for him, GW and other People apparently in control of the GOP are a little too much for me to get behind.

Back to Rudy: You want to support him, Hey, More Power to you. I think I've stated some of my Issues with the man rather clearly.

BTW: I Massacred my lawn in the name of the Protestors!

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