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New Yankee Stadium Is In The Works

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Finally, after years of talk, the Yankees are making serious moves to move out of the old house that Ruth built and build a new stadium across the street on Macombs Dam Park. The new stadium, estimated to cost the Yankees and other private sources $700 million, would be ready in 2009 or 2010. In order for the plan to get approved by the city (and the Bloomberg administration), the Yankees proposed they would pay for most of the construction costs, versus offering to pay only half when Mayor Giuliani was in office. The new stadium will not have a retractable roof, which helped offset some cost. The city will, however, pay for "non-stadium" improvements, like more parkland and Metro-NOrth service.

There was some early speculation that the old stadium would be torn down, which left Gothamist a bit apoplectic - curse of the Bambino 2, perhaps, combined with curses of thousands of other players. However, the NY Times reassures all and reports that the old stadium will be "converted, possibly, to a multilevel parking garage with a soccer field on top, while retaining the ball field and the most recognizable elements of the structure." A parking structure? Really? Anyway, the new stadium will look more like the old Yankee stadium, pre 1974 renovation, and have 50,000 seats (6,000 less than now) and 50 luxury boxes (more). Now, Gothamist just hopes its name stays as "Yankee Stadium" and not as "Verizon Stadium" or something.

The official Yankees site, and Wikipedia and Ballparks of Baseball on the stadium.

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  • Steinbrenner is greedy and unpatriotic! The Steinbrenner Stadium must be stopped. The seizure of public parkland for his private project places all parks in danger. The tearing down of the Hoouse That Ruth Built is a crie against Americana and sports history. For full details check out www.saveourparks.blogspot.com

  • Lauren

    George is a bully! He wants a monument to himself. I would not be surprised if at the unveiling we find out it's been named Steinbrenner Stadium. Any stadium that can draw the crowds that Yankee Stadium does doesn't need fixing!!! It's very obvious that the fans aren't stay away because it's not in the best neighborhood and doesn't have the best parking. No other place in athletics can boast the amazing feats that have occurred there. It's a national treasure!! The fans in Boston wised up and saved Fenway. We need to do the same.

    Where is the media coverage of this travesty???

    The proposed West Side Stadium got plenty of coverage - pro and con, but barely a whisper is being written or spoken about this lame-brained plan!!

  • Antonio

    If baseball was a religion, Yankee Stadium would be its temple and A-Rod the Pope.

    But in this epoch, a new stadium most be born…The Bambino 2. However, this time around it would be called The House That Jeter Built. So, let build the new Yankee Stadium just because we need a new stadium and please, do make this some thing that the politicians can feed from it.

  • Tony C

    My first time at Yankee Stadium was in 1961 when my dad took me. Oh how wonderful that was. My dad even took my sons to their first trip to Yankee Stadium. I agree with the guy who said the view from the seats will still be the same, as long as Monument Park is retained at the new stadium, I believe the Yankee Spirit will abound. I do have a concern about less seats though. It is difficult to get a seat now without having to pay a scalper for one, let alone 6. I am all for a new stadium, but PLEASE add some more seats instead of removing some.

  • Johnny

    This is horrible!! Yankee Stadium isnt like any other stadium in baseball or on earth for that matter. The stadium needs to stay!! Don't build another stadium...and a parking lot for the present stadium...thats disrespectful and a joke.

  • Michael Wagner

    Yankee Stadium is as sacred to New York as the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building, corned beef on rye, or a corner hot dog cart. All are wonderful well known symbols of New York.



    I had the honor of seeing Mickey, Moose, Whitey, Roger, Yogi, and their Yankee descendants play in this hallowed home and wear the treasured pinstripes.



    Yankee Stadium should remain. No other ballpark

    feels like home or has such a proud history. It is sacred and loved!!!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Take it easy? Good lord, have you no shame? No one has yet mentioned the Olympics, and NYC's bid for it, which meansall of this will be signed & sealed by May 2005, so that the new stadium can be part of NYC submission to the USOC in July. No wonder talks suddenly became "productive"! Bloomberg, whose admninistration has been marginal at best, would love to make "NYC 2012" his legacy, and he doesn't give a damn about Yankee fans. Think about it. The city, and 100 years of baseball memories, are about to fall prey to Bloomberg and Steinbrenner, and their insatiable egos.



    I've been going to the Stadium since I was 5, with my dad, who grew up nearby and taught me everything there is to know about the stadium. I hate to think my son will never remember seeing a ballgame there. It's the legend it is not because of vacuous corporate spiff, or shiny seats, or the likes. It's because you can go there, and in a world where so much has changed, and there's so little you can count on, you know you're watching a ball game just like people have for decades.



    For shame!

  • Birdman Bryant

    Take it easy friends.You shall be getting a new Yankee stadium plus all the fan friendly ammendities that one can offer at this new stadium paid for,by and large,by Big George himself out of his own pocket.





    You know it is always true.When some sports team asks for a new ballpark,or stadium,or arena,some politician shall go over and get indignant about and say that it is a waste of taxpayer dollars and say the teams are rich enough to finance these so-called toys by themselves.There is some truth to that,but you always have to ask these same politicians why can't taxpayers get tax relief in other more meaningful forms,such as ridding the public of city and state taxes,fees,licenses,tolls,etc,etc,etc?You shall see most if not all politicians clam up as fast as possible.The funding of new arenas and stadiums are often used as political football,so to speak,by local,state,and sometime federal politicians to shakedown as much money as they can from these various sports teams so they can get their own "reward" for helping provide the funding for the construction of these facilities.





    But if Big George is putting up his own money for most of the funding of the new Yankee Stadium,more power to him!The Bronx will not go dark.Something sacred shall not be destroyed.Something new and beautiful,for Yankee and baseball fans,shall be made.To the Yankees and to the Big Man who owns them,I say go for it!

  • I made this journey numerous times in the past. Heading down route 95, through Connecticut, 287 West, to 87 South, passing Yonkers Raceway and onto the Deegan to Yankee Stadium. Each one of those trips were filled with excited anticipation. Today was quite different though. My mood today was very subdued as I made this dreaded trip. You see, today I was going to the demolition of Yankee Stadium.

    As I turned onto the Stadium exit, I could see thousands of people standing behind the yellow police lines. This time though, they were not there to buy World Series tickets -- they were there to see some 75 plus years of memories soon to be erased. They were from all walks of life, young, old, black, white, male, and female. They were all standing there expressionless, as if they were waiting for their best friend to die. As I looked at all the people standing at the site, I wondered where these people were when Yankee Stadium could have been saved.



    Four wrecking ball crews were poised to begin the task. A signal was given and the demolition had begun. I looked up at the spot where the "Yankee Stadium" sign was and heard a collective gasp from the crowd, as the steel ball started crashing down the concrete. While this was going on all around the stadium, we all stood alone with our thoughts. Before our disbelieving eyes, OUR Yankee Stadium was beginning to crumble.



    With each part of the stadium systematically being crushed, so were the cherished memories we all had. As the cold steel ball hit the side of the stadium, out went the memory of a day when a dying man said, "He considered himself the luckiest man on the face of the earth." As the right-field bleachers came crashing down, out went all the homeruns a man they called the "Bambino" hit. Never, to be recalled again. Centerfield was now just a big black hole. The sacred ground of Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle had been violated. With each passing of the ball, championship after championship was being wiped out.



    Soon, all that was left was rubble. I couldn't believe it. A place, where so much joy was given to millions, was now just a pile of stones and dirt. It was too much to take as we all started to leave.



    Before I left, I saw an old man in a wheel chair. His eyes, like mine, were filled with tears. "I saw it all", he said. "From Ruth to Tino, I saw it all". As I walked away, I heard him say, "But I never thought I would see this".



    I took one last look at the site and shook my head in disgust, as a construction worker put out his cigarette butt on the area that used to be home plate.



    Suddenly the Bronx became very dark and cold. Yes, the memories were gone. Forever

  • I made this journey numerous times in the past. Heading down route 95, through Connecticut, 287 West, to 87 South, passing Yonkers Raceway and onto the Deegan to Yankee Stadium. Each one of those trips were filled with excited anticipation. Today was quite different though. My mood today was very subdued as I made this dreaded trip. You see, today I was going to the demolition of Yankee Stadium.

    As I turned onto the Stadium exit, I could see thousands of people standing behind the yellow police lines. This time though, they were not there to buy World Series tickets -- they were there to see some 75 plus years of memories soon to be erased. They were from all walks of life, young, old, black, white, male, and female. They were all standing there expressionless, as if they were waiting for their best friend to die. As I looked at all the people standing at the site, I wondered where these people were when Yankee Stadium could have been saved.



    Four wrecking ball crews were poised to begin the task. A signal was given and the demolition had begun. I looked up at the spot where the "Yankee Stadium" sign was and heard a collective gasp from the crowd, as the steel ball started crashing down the concrete. While this was going on all around the stadium, we all stood alone with our thoughts. Before our disbelieving eyes, OUR Yankee Stadium was beginning to crumble.



    With each part of the stadium systematically being crushed, so were the cherished memories we all had. As the cold steel ball hit the side of the stadium, out went the memory of a day when a dying man said, "He considered himself the luckiest man on the face of the earth." As the right-field bleachers came crashing down, out went all the homeruns a man they called the "Bambino" hit. Never, to be recalled again. Centerfield was now just a big black hole. The sacred ground of Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle had been violated. With each passing of the ball, championship after championship was being wiped out.



    Soon, all that was left was rubble. I couldn't believe it. A place, where so much joy was given to millions, was now just a pile of stones and dirt. It was too much to take as we all started to leave.



    Before I left, I saw an old man in a wheel chair. His eyes, like mine, were filled with tears. "I saw it all", he said. "From Ruth to Tino, I saw it all". As I walked away, I heard him say, "But I never thought I would see this".



    I took one last look at the site and shook my head in disgust, as a construction worker put out his cigarette butt on the area that used to be home plate.



    Suddenly the Bronx became very dark and cold. Yes, the memories were gone. Forever

  • I made this journey numerous times in the past. Heading down route 95, through Connecticut, 287 West, to 87 South, passing Yonkers Raceway and onto the Deegan to Yankee Stadium. Each one of those trips were filled with excited anticipation. Today was quite different though. My mood today was very subdued as I made this dreaded trip. You see, today I was going to the demolition of Yankee Stadium.

    As I turned onto the Stadium exit, I could see thousands of people standing behind the yellow police lines. This time though, they were not there to buy World Series tickets -- they were there to see some 75 plus years of memories soon to be erased. They were from all walks of life, young, old, black, white, male, and female. They were all standing there expressionless, as if they were waiting for their best friend to die. As I looked at all the people standing at the site, I wondered where these people were when Yankee Stadium could have been saved.



    Four wrecking ball crews were poised to begin the task. A signal was given and the demolition had begun. I looked up at the spot where the "Yankee Stadium" sign was and heard a collective gasp from the crowd, as the steel ball started crashing down the concrete. While this was going on all around the stadium, we all stood alone with our thoughts. Before our disbelieving eyes, OUR Yankee Stadium was beginning to crumble.



    With each part of the stadium systematically being crushed, so were the cherished memories we all had. As the cold steel ball hit the side of the stadium, out went the memory of a day when a dying man said, "He considered himself the luckiest man on the face of the earth." As the right-field bleachers came crashing down, out went all the homeruns a man they called the "Bambino" hit. Never, to be recalled again. Centerfield was now just a big black hole. The sacred ground of Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle had been violated. With each passing of the ball, championship after championship was being wiped out.



    Soon, all that was left was rubble. I couldn't believe it. A place, where so much joy was given to millions, was now just a pile of stones and dirt. It was too much to take as we all started to leave.



    Before I left, I saw an old man in a wheel chair. His eyes, like mine, were filled with tears. "I saw it all", he said. "From Ruth to Tino, I saw it all". As I walked away, I heard him say, "But I never thought I would see this".



    I took one last look at the site and shook my head in disgust, as a construction worker put out his cigarette butt on the area that used to be home plate.



    Suddenly the Bronx became very dark and cold. Yes, the memories were gone. Forever

  • CoachMike

    You Yankee fans that think the stadium should be left as is are insane. I could understand you point if they were going to put Miller park with a slide and a ferris wheel in the Bronx, but that is no tthe case. You will get Yankee Stadium in a state of the art bottle. From your seat it will look the same and that is the only place that the existing stadium possesses any charm. Leave your seat to get a drink and enter a dark, dingy, maze of tunnels where you will inevitably lose at least a half inning of the game. Imagine the Bat, the beautiful look of the stadium outside, the vacade, the train, the monuments, the bleachers, Bob Sheppard, Ronin Tynun, Frank Sinatra, the banners, the bald eagle challenger, Kate Smith, and all the trappings of the stadium as you know it, which by the way is not look like the same stadium those greats you speak of played in. Now imagine it with wide open concourses all around where you could enjoy all of the tastes that make NY famous. Maybe they might even sell SRO tickets for ten dollars and put another 10,000 fans in there. If they do it, they will do it right and we will be in awe and glad they did. Personally I would rather light my grill and sit in front of my big screen than fight the GW, the cross bronx, and the deegan, just to listen to the first 4 inning in the car while I look at the stadium, then miss two inning in concesion lines before I miss Mariano b/c I have to leave before the crowd in order to be home before 2 AM. The new ferry stp and train station will help. As far as the old land they will do the right thing and it will be immortalized. it will never be a parking lot liek some fear.

  • Yanksfan63

    This is something I have mixed feelings about. First, The House That Ruth Built must remain. Allow college sports, little league or just turn it into a multi-sport/museum. It should be registered on the Landmark's Commission's places of historic interest list.



    However, the price of real estate in NY being what they are and the revenue that the Yankees are unable to generate in an oudated facility won't allow that to happen.



    A new stadium in the shadow of the old is probably the best compromise. The existing structure is too small for pedestrian traffic, has no luxury boxes in the true sense of the word. Concessions and food are lacking by the standards of more modern ballparks and the access to the stadium is very limited. Renovating the existing stadium is not practical. Many of the same issues will remain simply because the overall footprint of the building cannot be changed. An new structure with a slightly larger footprint can provide the wider walking areas, upscale dining, luxury boxes and other concession areas such as pro-shops and Yankee museum and perhaps a Monument Park that can remain open during the game rather than shutting down prior to the first pitch allowing more fan access.



    George's "toy" as some here put it will be paid for by HIM. The badly needed refurbishment of the surrounding areas should be the responsibility of the city, though my understanding is that George is kicking in for some of that as well.



    This is a GOOD thing for Yankee fans, albeit bittersweet as well.



    I for one LOVE Yankee Stadium and have been going since 1967. I've seen both the "old" and the "new old". While I will miss the current ball park, a new one is very exciting. This is a badly needed ballpark for the caliber of ball club George puts out there for the fans year after year. It's about time the sport's most storied franchise start playing in a facilty more befitting a champion of the 21st century.

  • ML

    This is definitely ridiculous.



    Unfortunately, you knew it was coming back again someday. George is not going to stop until he gets his new toy, or we stop him.



    We really need to organize fast against this thing. Does anyone know of any group that's working on this?

  • nick

    this is the biggest bullshit ever , i have been going to yankee stadium ever since i was a little guy now im 15 im the biggest yankee fan . i wanted to take my g/f to yankee stadium but i cant even go in there i am so sad to even watch the games after i have heard the news of the yankees building a new stadium. it should be a damn landmark , just think , babe ,mickey,d'maggio, munson , ect. ohh yea and a guy called AARON BOONE hit a nice little post season homerun against the rivaled red sox , you can't replace memories nor this stadium . To me it's like a second home , or some could say a church. dumping aaron boone for a-rod was blow , but now george wanting a new stadium is just A finishing touch

  • nick

    this is the biggest bullshit ever , i have been going to yankee stadium ever since i was a little guy now im 15 im the biggest yankee fan . i wanted to take my g/f to yankee stadium but i cant even go in there i am so sad to even watch the games after i have heard the news of the yankees building a new stadium. it should be a damn landmark , just think , babe ,mickey,d'maggio, munson , ect. ohh yea and a guy called AARON BOONE hit a nice little post season homerun against the rivaled red sox , you can't replace memories nor this stadium . To me it's like a second home , or some could say a church. dumping aaron boone for a-rod was blow , but now george wanting a new stadium is just A finishing touch

  • nick

    this is the biggest bullshit ever , i have been going to yankee stadium ever since i was a little guy now im 15 im the biggest yankee fan . i wanted to take my g/f to yankee stadium but i cant even go in there i am so sad to even watch the games after i have heard the news of the yankees building a new stadium. it should be a damn landmark , just think , babe ,mickey,d'maggio, munson , ect. ohh yea and a guy called AARON BOONE hit a nice little post season homerun against the rivaled red sox , you can't replace memories nor this stadium . To me it's like a second home , or some could say a church. dumping aaron boone for a-rod was blow , but now george wanting a new stadium is just A finishing touch

  • "Travesty" would be putting it extremely mildly. It's long been known that Steinbrenner is a short-sighted bully who is clueless about the "goodwill" value of the Yankees' tradition in general and Yankee Stadium in particular. What is new is Mayor Bloomberg's acquiescence in this latest gambit. He had opposed any public funds for new baseball stadiums in the wake of 9/11, but now it looks like he'll agree to massive new spending on infrastructure, an unwarranted public subsidy to make life more pleasant for the skybox set. He's making Ralph Nader look wise...

  • Sterling

    The last time Yankee Stadium underwent major renovations, in the mid-70s, I think the Yankees had to play at Shea for two seasons. Is this what Yankees mgmt is trying to avoid by building a new stadium while keeping the old one in service?



    The other question mark is the difference in the price tag for renovations versus new construction. Of course, both will go over budget but a renovation has fewer cost control problems than a new building.



    So if new construction is estimated at $700 million, and renovation at (let's guess) $400 million, it's easy to see why George might prefer the former when you add in impact on TV revenues (the Yankees + YES do better than $150 million a year in TV revenues, I think), ticket sales and rent and other fees at Shea. It might look like close to a wash from Steinbrenner's position, except at the end you wind up with a new stadium, and incredible media coverage that will make Camden Yards' spectacular unveiling look like a two-alarm fire.



    But what little I know about the NYC building trade unions and NYC building codes tells me that it's probably better to renovate than start fresh.

  • Oscar Gamble

    If they tear down the old Stadium, I sure hope they find a new spot for a 55,000-seat urinal in the Bronx. They don't call it The Toilet for nothing, you know.

  • pieceomymind

    it's all about the luxury boxes, folks...



    the big corporations pay big wampum for them & often pay for the whole season up-front



    teams don't have to worry about individual ticket sales as much with the fat-cats paying big bucks



    they also make a fortune stocking the boxes w/overpriced food & exhorbitantly expensive drinks



    don't be surprised if they do sell the old stadium off in little bits & pieces, lewis - that will be worth big bucks

  • Lewis

    I would like to have the old Stadium broken into little pieces and sold (with a certificate) so fans can have a piece of the "House that Ruth Built." In addition, this is a great way to raise money. Making the old Stadium into a parking garage or lot seems somehow sacreligious.

  • I don't get it either. What's wrong with the existing stadium?

  • adi

    umm...i dont get it. why do this at all? whats wrong with the current stadium?

  • Mets Fan

    This is a travesty....have they no shame....a parking lot!!!



    Jane Jacobs please help!

  • mark

    while this sounds great, why would they want to build a new stadium with 6K-7K FEWER seats? they already get 52K on a uneventful tuesday night up there. not sure why they would want fewer seats.

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