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read here about Mr. Bush and his friends' religious beliefs:

http://www.thestranger.com/2004-06-10/feature2.html

what a bunch of loonies

Happy 4th Sterling.

I don't have the option of skipping work - in fact Sept. 1 is my first day of a new job out in NJ, so I have to take the Midtown Direct. Rather than be late and miserable, I'm spending a few days with my parents in Jersey and driving from there. Unfortunately, my mother now wants to drive me to work - ugh.

Heather - I couldn't agree with you more. But you'll notice that tscoccol began by labeling 40% of the American public - a portion to which I belong - as "nauseating".

SP - The only political party that ever had a widespread, close relationship with the KKK was the Democratic Party. Until the 60s and early 70s - when the KKK largely ceased to exist - the leadership of a Southern county Democratic Party was often as interchangeable with the KKK leadership, as was the Kiwanis or Rotary. Same guys. The point is, for the most part those men faded from prominence as Democrats - Strom Thurmond being an exception (though he was never in the KKK). The fact that the Democrats have never sought to remove Robert Byrd is very telling, and extremely hypocritical - he is the senior Democrat in the US Senate, not some wacko in the swamps of Louisiana.

Ryan - Yes, the South eventually came around and started voting Republican, just as New England flip-flopped into the Democrat column. Those regions party affiliations changed as their guiding principles changed, and as the party message itself changed. However, I would argue that the Republicans have been more consistent on message since the end of WWII than the Democrats.

Rudayday knows that I am descended from both Union and Confederate soldiers, and so is trying to get my goat.

[A special note to SP: Making a political argument is not the same as making a political bumpersticker. My advice to you is to outline the points you want to make, and then look for the least inflammatory way to express them. For instance, you keep trying to define the Republican Party by naming a few loonies who may be associated with the extreme Right, and by presenting unusual, exceptional events as standard behavior. That's a bumper sticker, but a bad argument. Making a political argument, you'll do best if you follow the same principle as when firing a gun - aim for the center of mass. See, in my heart I have no affiliation with David Duke - he is not an elected official of my party and has nothing to do with me. An attack on Dubya hits close to home, but the Bob Jones University "revelations" were one of those silly little campaign stunts that both sides play.

Politicians go places and talk to people - that's what they do. I'm not going to get worked up if Bush or Gingrich goes to talk to a group of people that I don't agree with. And just because someone may be wacky doesn't mean they're not entitled to have the ear of their elected officials from time to time.

By the way, I've been on the Bob Jones campus myself - it *IS* creepy. My expectation is that when Bush was done with his speech, he walked off stage and quietly said something like, "Whew! That was creepy!", because that's the response of mainstream Americans to an environment crafted by fundamentalist Christians. (And don't come back and tell me that Bush is a fundamentalist Christian - if you really believe that then you haven't met any Holy Rollers or Church of Christers.)]

Another issue that hasn't gotten a lot of press is all the street vendors and stores that will have to close since they plan on shutting down a lot of the area to general foot traffic. For a small business owner, a loss of half a week's business could be devestating. All in all, the city seems to be making some real boneheaded decisions.

Actually Larry, the post was about how the RNC was going to shut down Penn Station and how it would affect commuters. Readers were asked to voice how this would affect them. When they expressed their opinions of disapproval, Sterling chimed in with his usual nasty and dishonest venom. Do I need to quote him, its just a few posts up. I know you righties enjoy revisionism, but when the thread is right here for you to see, you're really better off keeping your mouth shut.

I don't think Sterling loses when you launch hysterical ad-hominem attacks.

Why is it that everytime Gothamist posts about, you know, *train station safety*, the first comments (and subsequent discussion) are always anti-GOP screeds. There's room enough for differences of opinion in this big city. If we can't keep political discussion civil, maybe sticking to the topic is the way to go.

Jeeze, it's like the worst cocktail party ever in here. No more bad feelings! It's a long weekend!

Hey retard, if you knew how to read and your brain had the honesty to process what your eyes were seeing, you would acknowledge that the KKK was affiliated with the Dems almost 150 years ago, and that in 20th century their political allegiance is to the right wing. Since we only have 2 parties in this country, that gives them only one choice: the GOP. In fact their main enemy is the supposed "left wing jewish controlled international banking conspiracy". We wont see too many pointy hats and white robes in Boston this year.

And yes, David Duke was an embarassment to the GOP but he was a Republican none the less. He is maybe just a little to the right of Strom Thurmond (may he burn in hell), Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, and Hitler-loving Pat Buchanan.

David Duke, the former Grand wizard of the KKKK (yes 4 K's) and Louisiana state representative, chaired the Republican Parish Executive Committee of the largest Republican parish in Louisiana as late as 2000, when he skipped the country and eventually was convicted of fraud and tax evasion. Many Republicans are associated with the openly-racist Council for Conservative Citizens, including outgoing Georgia Congressman Bob Barr, who has spoken before the segregationist group, and one time Republican National Committee leader Buddy Witherspoon, who resisted calls that he resign his CCC membership.

Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist, a Republican, launched his career as a GOP operative in 1964 by harassing black voters. Republican Attorney General John Ashcroft opposed racial integration and the appointment of African Americans to offices as Missouri governor and attorney general and has uttered pro- Confederate views.

Dubya Bush himself spoke before the segregationist Bob Jones University in South Carolina, genuflected before the Confederate flag, and helped implement the racist Willie Horton ad during the 1988 presidential campaign of Bush Sr., who approved the racist ad after lobbying by his son. Both Bush's have appointed many racists - both subtle and overt - to high offices, who now work to further erode civil rights.

White House strategist Karl Rove also aided with the racist Horton ad and oversaw the racist 2000 South Carolina smear campaign against Sen. John McCain, which alluded to McCain's "black child," who actually is an adopted daughter from Bangladesh.

It just goes on and on, if you want to keep playing this game be my guest. I think Gothamist readers have had enough though. You lose Sterling.

Oh Sterling! You Sons Of The Confederacy (NJ didn't go for Lincoln...same difference) are so defensive about the depravity of your kin.

If the dixiecrats couldn't bring themselves to vote Republican for the first 100+ years of the existence of the Republican party (out of hatred for Abraham Lincoln no less), it must have been some-kinda incredible bigot Repuglican to finally break the spell and call them home to the fold...who was that man? Have they finished his pyramid? Did they name the Simi Valley courthouse for him yet?

And on a related note, saying "sir" just after saying "nigger" does not a gentleman make.

You headed down to Vicksburg for 4th of July celebrations this year?

Sterling, there's a really good name for the large majority of racist Dixecrats who support gold ol' boy interests over civil rights: Republicans. They switched over from during a long period in the late 20th century, and made a big exodus in the 80s. Good riddance, but the Dixiecrats have little more to do with the modern Dems than you are a Whig. Say hi to Strom Thurman when you see him.

and p.s., closing 6 of 8 entrances at Penn Station sounds like THE WORST IDEA EVER. it is still unclear to me why anyone would think that's a good idea. someone please explain....

Sterling, just because someone has different viewpoints from you doesn't make them "dumb" or "simple". And making statements such as those just makes you sound like the very things you are accusing tscoccol of being. Besides, people will simply ignore what you post when you go around ranting and name calling like that. All/any intellegent, well-thought out points you may have had are then lost to anyone reading this and your argument is therefore rendered useless. The point being, feel free to disagree, but do it respectfully.

Christian - I've been wondering the same thing. In the past few years we've had to deal with track fires, smoke conditions (usually from those same track fires), flooding and bomb scares. Closing entrances is a horrible idea. All it takes is one moron to drop a newspaper on the tracks by the third rail and the whole place will need to be evacuated.

Commuting is going to be more hellish than usual. :(

SP - Do you have a point? The Klan was formed by Democrat voters in 1865 and refounded again early in the 20th. That's common knowledge. I know you LOVE to copy+paste, but do try to at least make sure the text is relevant to the argument.

You're citing David Duke as an example of the Republican Party? Both the national Republican Party and the Louisiana GOP denounced Duke, kicked him out and refused to support him the first time his head rose out of the muck - and without that support he lost his election. This is in stark contrast to the ongoing Democrat support for Duke's fellow former Klansman Robert Byrd, who actually used the "N" word on TV last year and got away with it.

If you're looking for an example of a Louisiana Republican, I'd give you last year's gubernatorial candidate Bobby Jindal, son of Indian immigrants: http://www.bobbyjindal.com/online_hq/more_about_bobby.htm

By closing that many entrances, is the city creating a death trap of sorts? Take the usual load of people, close 3/4 the entrances, and if someone does something awful like a terror attack, we've got an even worse mess on our hands. I sincerely hope they know what they're doing.

here's a charming southerner. Ran first as a Democrat, then as Republican, kinda like Ronnie "Mr Jellybean" Reagan

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/duke.asp

As for the Klan, The original Ku Klux Klan was first established in Pulaski, Tennessee after the end of the American Civil War on December 24, 1865 by General Nathan Bedford Forrest and other Confederate veterans.

In 1871 President Ulysses S. Grant put what was believed to be the final nail in the Klan's coffin, and signed The Klan Act and Enforcement Act. The Klan became an illegal terrorist group, and the use of force was authorized to suppress and disrupt the organization's activities.

The second Ku Klux Klan was re-established during World War I, a feat which arguably would not have been possible without David Wark Griffith's skillful propaganda film The Birth of a Nation, based on the play The Clansmen and the book The Leopard's Spots, both by Thomas Dixon. Many poor whites were drawn to the idea that their economic woes were caused by Blacks, or by Jewish bankers, or by other such groups, similar to the Nazi party's propaganda during the Second World War. This Klan was operated as a profit-making venture by its leaders, and participated in the boom for fraternal organizations at the time. It differed from the first Klan; the first Klan was Democratic and Southern; this Klan was Republican and Midwestern, and had major political influence on the Republicans in several Midwestern states.

Asshole.

tscoccol - You're not an enemy, you're just a dummy. May all my enemies be as narrow-minded and off-their-meds as you. That link I provided - do you really think banning pets from NYC apartments is a neoconservative ploy? (You know, NYC tapwater has been chlorinated and flourinated since the Eisenhower Administration - REPUBLICANS!)

Sterling, I'm sorry but that's the way I feel. I despise the faux morality that comes out of the south and so-called bible belt of this country that elevates an embarassment like G Bush to the White House and enages in hypocritical and often illegal politics http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040701_1160.html ) (intended to thwart the will of our people.

There are two Americas and the fight for the soul of this once great nation is ongoing. You are my enemey as are all like you and I will speak on it often.