Photographers to MTA: Suck It!

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Gothamist was there for today's protest against the proposed ban on photography in New York City subways. The protest started at Grand Central, which was appropriate, as it is a frequent target for both photobloggers, tourists, and terrorists. A quick count revealed that reporters and press photographers outnumbered protestors by about five to one. The protestors themselves were a motley bunch: off-duty reporters in beat-up sneakers, unshaven urban explorers, and three or four detached looking photobloggers lingering at the edges.

After mugging for each other for twenty minutes, the group proceeded to the subway, where they rode the 6 downtown to 14th Street, the L across to the West Side, the C up to 42nd, and the Shuttle back to Grand Central again. Highlights of the ride included a near altercation with police at Union Square (well, they actually just asked some of the photographers to stop leaning against the barricades, but their tone was impolite), intimidation of a shy conductor trying to close the doors on the L ("Get him! He's trying to shield his face!"), and endless, endless, endless photographing of other photographers. Still, the point was made: if a group of 50 photographers rampaging through the system is this harmless, surely the ban on photography is a stupid, ill-conceived, wasteful, and unnecessary measure. [Related: Matt Haber's Village Voice article on the ban.]

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That's a really great photograph, Jake. Clearly, the next step is for someone to make a downloadable "press pass" that photobloggers can print out, color in with crayons, laminate, and show to cops.

"People take pictures of each other," sang the Kinks. But it was a pleasant time nonetheless.

I have a few shots up at

http://www.samueljohnson.com/blog/archives/0406a.html#6a

Exposing security flaws: I am detrimental to the cause

I'm that young green haired urban explorer...

I suppose my page on it would resemble a "photolog."

http://www.netherworldonline.net/mtaphotoprotest.htm

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My contribution to the pile: http://www.aboutmattlaw.com/pb/pb_1.htm

I would say that it generally went ok, but I kind of got a "we're gonna do what we want and there's nothing you can do to stop us" feeling from the whole thing rather than the "look - all we're doing is taking pictures - no harm?" vibe I was expecting.

Here's a short montage I edited together about today's protest, in the style of a silent film:

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/problem_resolvers/photography_ban.wmv

Sounds like a good ol' time. Some of my best pictures have been taken in the NYC subway, including this rockin' movie clip.

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London Underground have a very similar ban in place but alas with all the security cameras it is hardly enforced unless you look suspicious.

Don't fear, if MTA do ban your photography they will have to check your person for camera phones, cameras and other photo taking devices which will slow down access and make using the subway a waste of time.

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I absolutely disagree with the ban on photography, but have to say entering a conductor's cab and taunting her with "Say Cheese" serves not one person in the crusade to stop the MTA's insanity, and, to put it bluntly, is rather juvenile.

http://www.netherworldonline.net/mtaphotoprotest.htm

Protests are only good when the message remains clear and focused. Being told to stay out of a private area of a subway car, the conductor's cab, has nothing to do with this protest. Barraging her with photographs being taken solves nothing. The conductor has no power. She did not propose the ban. She drives a subway. Take your complaints to the real devil--MTA Executives, like Peter Kalikow (MTA Chairman) or Katherine Lapp (Executive Director).

And yet more photos from yesterday's protest -- some by me http://joesnyc.streetnine.com/ and a few by my nine-year old daughter http://lin.kz/?w5039 .

It was good to be in the midst of so many people who can identify and defend their rights. Let's keep it up.

For more pictures, and some text, see way cool photo-in captures New York MTA.

I have a strong feeling that if the proposed ban was put into effect it would not be enforced unless you seemed suspicous for reasons beyond merely taking pictures.
Basically law enforcement would use the ban as a "tool" to fight terrorism and not as a way to harrass the general public.

The next "flashmob" needs to occur in New Jersey to protest their Gestapo-type attitude. See what is required for a "permit" to take photos on NJT at www.publictransit.us

Paul: Unfortunately, the powers that be are already using the ban to harass good citzens. With a ligitmate ban, I suspect that it would only increase.

Michaek S: Organize an NJ protest. All you need to do is pick a date, post it to several web boards, and it will grow a life of it's own and it will happen.

Ban or no ban, I won't stop. They only way they'll ever get my camera is from my cold dead hands.

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This is a violation of 1st Amendment Rights. There are many touris taking photos of NYC Subways, Landmarks and other things as part of their NYC Experience. They are NOT in restricted areas like yards, garages, tracks, etc..

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I ontacted the MTA and was told the reasons why the ban is going into effect. But it is also my understanding the the MTA board if going to vote on the action sometimie this fall

I got some great Photos at the Protest, Check them out @ Expedition NYC It may be a slow load, sorry :\

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The Paparazzi is going to be a wanted man!

This is why I left NY. Too many bureaucrats trying to justify their big salaries, expense accounts and cop driven limosines by creating non-sense rules and regulations which do absolutely nothing to better the city or it's people.

Christopher Street,
Jamaica, IA

Finally, someone has the balls to stand up to government BS.

If you're a photographer and get hassled by the police, be sure to submit your story here:

http://www.freedomtophotograph.com/

We're compiling stories of police abuse of photographers' rights into a central place, for all the world to see.

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I suggest that you contact Donna Lieberman at American Civil Liberties for action. We cannot let the MTA ban tourists and railfans to photograph in the subway!!

The Port Authority forbids sketching in the PA Bus Station.

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