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The suicide of NYU student Diana Chien continues to upset the NYU administration and students. The Post, which uses an image of Chien falling from a building for its cover today, talks to students about the NYC factor of NYU. One student says, "At other schools, you have to adjust to school. The added burden of coming here is that you also have to adjust to New York City." A senior adds, "At NYU, it's really difficult to make friends. There's no campus life. Everyone is isolated. It can be very lonely."
The off-campus death of Chien, UCLA transfer and daughter of a senior VP at TiVo, did make the death feel "removed" (versus the deaths at the Bobst Library), but students are still upset, one telling the Times, "People are sort of angry and bitter. They don't understand why this keeps happening." The Times also notes that police cannot confirm the Post's report, based on police sources, that Chien had argued with her boyfriend earlier in the day. While Gothamist knows suicides and deaths during college year are, sadly, a part of what happens, we also think that the unusual number of recent deaths, coupled with the fact that NY has a number of big media outlets, makes the situation more publicized.
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the nypost also has a reference to her boyfriend's website. i tracked it down on google. warning- some people have been leaving pretty mean comments. check it out
i have heard that this time of year has more student suicides that any other, due to some connection to the cold weather. when my friend was in college, his school scheduled their 'spring break' in february to relieve the stress of the winter months.
The problem is that no one knows what happened in their relationship, and I think the comments directed at Lam, while emotional, are inappropriate.
Also, getting mean, anonymous comments is no fun. While Lam may or may not be a bad boyfriend, he was not on the roof with her and should just ignore/turn off the comments.
am I the only one who thinks it was really inappropriate of the Post to put that picture of her falling on the cover? I know, I know, what do you expect from the Post, but it seemed like a new low.
I agree with jbro. It was bad enough that the Post ran it on Sunday, but to re-print it (on the cover no less) seems a bit much.
Totally freakin inappropriate- I hope her parents sue the pants off of them for malicious emotional distress, etc.
I am shocked that the Post ran that photo on the cover. It seems that now that the press has fully realized Chien's connection to NYU they media barrage has intensified, with the Post leading the way.
NYUview.com is continuing to following the coverage... NYU suicide photo published, her frat boyfriend revealed, and NYU's grief.
Pat Kiernan on NY1 refused to show the Posts cover today when he did the "In the Papers" round this morning--good for him.
the post is not worth the paper it's printed on. that's always been the case, but this is the most inconsiderate and appalling front page i have ever seen them print. as a member of the nyu community, i am thoroughly disgusted,
I want to know who took that photo, and why they happened to know to take it. I also want to know how the Post got ahold of it.
I believe he is a Post photographer who was listening to poice radio and heard a call come in about a potential jumper.
The problem is, I bet the Post sells more way more copies today than usual.
The Post's story from Sunday stated:
Her dramatic plunge to the pavement was caught by Post photographer Scott Schwartz.
Schwartz said she had her back to the street when she leaped and stayed completely still all the way down.
"I saw one shoe go flying into the air after the impact," Schwartz said. "I do recall her being barefoot."
Schwartz said he assumed cops would talk the jumper off the ledge before she decided to take the leap.
I think the Post probably had a whole bunch of other photos they chose not to run that are a lot more graphic.
Either way, I think the photo they ran is graphic enough and is incredibly insensitive.
I agree Anthony. Why the hell is the picture on the front page?? Do they think the picture will ease the parents pain??
This is why i dont read the Post
where's the outrage from all those who were disgusted at janet's nipple shield?? The post photo is so much more degrading and debased.
I'm completely disgusted by the Post--I mean I often am--but this? what a low.
I can't believe they published that photo
Diana is more than a friend to me, she is my sister. Together we pledged for the same sorority. Nobody knows how difficult it is for her friends here at UCLA to deal with her death.
But it disgusts me that so many people, especially those from the NYPost, are publishing material treating her as an object, as someone that could sell a story for them.
I love Diana. I miss her. She was the sweetest and most caring girl I have come across.
Diana is more than a friend to me, she is my sister. Together we pledged for the same sorority. Nobody knows how difficult it is for her friends here at UCLA to deal with her death.
But it disgusts me that so many people, especially those from the NYPost, are publishing material treating her as an object, as someone that could sell a story for them.
Oh btw...Diana did not post that nasty comment that everyone is talking about. Diana had her own xanga and it wasn't commented under her ID. And posting something like that is completely out of her character.
I love Diana. I miss her. She was the sweetest and most caring girl I have come across.
To branch off of what Christine said,
Diana was also my sister in the same sorority. I think it's disgusting that the NYPost has the audacity to post such a distasteful article about the tragic incident without paying any respect to Diana as a genuine human being. Diana was always warm, friendly, and loving - she made many friends while attending UCLA and she was always the one who reminded her friends that she loved them. She touched many lives and it is evident by all that are mourning her passing.
It is really disturbing for such a generic journalist to publish such a sick story and accompany it with THAT photo - it is really hard for us to cope with her passing as is, we don't need this sort of mental picture. Also, it angers us to see that strangers are making outrageous assumptions that she has been posting nasty comments of any sort on Chris Lam's Xanga site, those comments were NOT made by her. She had her own Xanga site that she hardly utilized under a different username.
If you don't know the facts, it's best for you to prevent looking ignorant - therefore it is best to say nothing at all. It is better to mind your own business and respect those that we have lost.
Those of you who never knew her and have only read about her in these cheap publications shouldn't make any wrongful assumptions that disrespect or downgrade her character. Enough damage has been done, there is no need to add on to it. Those of us who knew her, loved her and with that said - we appreciate it if everyone respected her privacy and allowed her to rest in peace.
Diana was and always will be my sister.
Given that this thread has raised the question:
What is the difference between the Post printing this picture, and one of the newsweeklies (Newsweek, I believe) printing very similar pictures of the 9/11 jumpers? What is the difference between this picture and a picture of a mob hit that lands on the front cover? Why is one picture "insensitive" and another not? Is the nature of the victim relevant?
A review of tabloid history reveals that pictures of this sort have frequently been used to "move product".
I was also thinking about was Ziegfeld asks earlier. I was also disgusted by the pictures of the 9/11 jumpers. Those seemed to be exploiting a heartbreaking situation, as today's picture seems to be.
It feels to me that there are a million shades of grey here - are the 9/11 pictures somehow slightly less reprehensible because those people were anonymous? And are the mob hit pictures even less reprehensible because you somehow assume those people are tied up in dirty crimes? I do recall that the picture of that poor woman who was electrocuted to death in the east village also seemed inapproriate - an innocent victim used to sell papers.
This all feels like a losing battle, though. The more these pictures show up, the more we'll get used to them, and who knows what we'll see after that....
Granted the photo on the cover is graceless, I'm bothered by my classmates' comments on the suicide.
"At other schools, you have to adjust to school," said freshman Brittney Filek-Gibson, 18. "The added burden of coming here is that you also have to adjust to New York City."
Senior Vasudha Talla, 21, agreed, saying:
"At NYU, it's really difficult to make friends. There's no campus life. Everyone is isolated. It can be very lonely."
Completely excusing the fact I didn't know her, or any of the other students, it seems highly unlikely her suicide was a result of her recent transfer to NYU. Suicide is an irrational act. It really can't be justified or reasoned with.
I think the students interviewed were referring to the other deaths as well. Those were generalized statements, which could actually be made about any school.
Am I just reading into things too much, or thinking too much about the motivations of Eds at the Post... but in the linked NYP story above, there's a pic of Diana Chien doing the long jump. Caption: "NYU student Diana Chien, here as a high-school track star, jumped off the roof of her boyfriend's Midtown apartment building." Long jump... suicide jump... am I stretching this too far?
The story has now been picked up by the AP wire service. It makes reference to the pain caused by the Post's decision to re-run the picture on the front page.
Here's a portion:
The New York Post tabloid published a front-page photo of Chien's plunge off the building, and university officials said Wednesday the decision to rerun the photo worsened the community's pain.
The photograph was used inside the newspaper Sunday with a story quoting witnesses to the woman's fall, and it was republished Wednesday on the front page with Chien's identity.
``Given that this had already been in the paper once, it seems to show an appalling lack of judgment and insensitivity to the young woman's family and a disregard for the feelings of students at NYU,'' university spokesman John Beckman said.
Post spokeswoman Suzi Halpin declined to comment.
Jake,
That is in poor taste to repost the link to his xanga. I do not know either party in this situation and I just heard of the news now through word of mouth. But to everyone, regardless of who is at fault, if anyone, this is a time for grieving and healing. It should not be a time of sensationalist reporting and finger pointing.
Maybe you did not like it. Maybe it was a "bad" idea, but the Post has every right to publish that picture and the story in today's paper. I read the Post because I think its interesting. Its not a "prestigious paper" like the New York Times. I am not going to fool myself. Remember though that the NY POST is the oldest continuously published newspaper in the United States.
Before you criticize it, think for a minute. Was there anything false in today's paper? Were there any misrepresentation of the facts? Or are you upset because the Post merely decided to report on this tragic death in the first place and print the photo.
Somehow I have more respect for the Post, than for the Washington Square News which has been pressured by administration to NOT report anything on the story. Take a look at what was printed in Mondays Wash Square News (www.nyunews.com), and you'll find it matches almost exactly to the Administration Email. Hmmm interesting coincidence.
Maybe if NYU actually took the time to investigate the common features/causes between the suicides instead of covering them up, we could avoid the next one. Or should we just put up some more plexiglass around campus buildings?
Reading the New York Post is your own choice, but you're kidding yourself if you think they don't bastardize the facts. As Gothamist noted, no one can confirm what the Post reported - that she fought with her boyfriend earlier in the day. I don't think you'll ever hear the Post referred to as "the paper of record".
That aside, of course they have the right to report on this tragic event. But running that picture (twice!) is utterly tacky.
"Was there anything false in today's paper? Were there any misrepresentation of the facts?"
No. But the question is, did the picture add anything to the story. To repeat something I wrote in a comment elsewhere [ahem, at ScaryNY]... "She jumped from a building. We know that. Many have compared this to showing images of people jumping from the WTC. I think the comparison is not valid. Here, the story was that she killed herself by jumping out of a building. The picture doesn't add to that fact. With the WTC, the story was that people were taking control over their own demise. The pictures were illustrative of that point. I think there's a difference."
NY Post or NYT. The image did not add to the story.
Publishing photos of suicides is /not/ the same as the WTC photos.
It's well documented that increasing the visibility and drama of suicides increases the propensity of other "marginal" individuals to consider/commit suicide.
Responsible media will generally not publish suicide attempts at all, and minimize the sensationalism around suicide attempts of otherwise low-profile individuals.
Given that there's no debate about the facts of her death, publishing that photo adds no value to the story. It's purely there to sell papers, and it's exploiting a tragic death to do so.
NYU counselling sucks. It's useless. How many more suicides until NYU addresses this?
MIT finally got smart and fixed their program--NYU must do the same.
The pictures of the WTC jumpers and the picture of this suicide ARE very similar, and it is entirely permissible to publish either. Publishing the photo DOES add to the story for example, did you notice the bag she had in her hand? I didn't read that in the article anywhere. The photo added realism to that story, the same as the photos of those jumping from the Twin Towers.
It's "well-documented" that increasing visibility of suicides increases people to commit more suicides? Show me this documentation. Perhaps there is a correlation but just like violent video games, there is no clear cause-and-effect between what people see in the newspapers/tv/media and what happens in real life.
Correlation IS NOT cause-and-effect. Ever hear of the fallacy of "post hoc ergo propter hoc"? (After this, therefore because of this) Just because event B happens after event A does not mean event A caused event B.
Example, Roosters crow just before the sun rises, therefore roosters crowing cause the sun to rise
"I didn't read that in the article"
Right. Because the reporter and editors correctly judged that her bag was not important to the story. I will defend their right to publish what serves readers to the day I die, but I will also question their decision to publish pictures/text that does nothing to add to the story they are trying to tell.
The pictures may be similar in composition, but not in what they do to advance the story.
(I feel like I'm in college again)
"The pictures of the WTC jumpers and the picture of this suicide ARE very similar, and it is entirely permissible to publish either."
Then why didn't the Post publish front page pictures of U.S. soldiers who were killed in action last year in Iraq? Maybe they did, but I don't remember any (not that I want to see those). I'm guessing they didn't since it would have been "unpatriotic" and there would have been an uproar - rightly IMO - by the families of those servicemen and women. Seems to me that they arbitrarily print whatever they want (which is their editorial right, of course), but I don't see how the suffering of the Chien family is different and find the front page unwarranted and offensive.
I am a recent and proud NYU graduate, and I am bothered by the fact that people, both on this site and elsewhere, are blaming the NYU enviornment for the recent string of suicides.
NYU is crowded. There are no ivy covered buildings or sprawling green lawns (Washington Square Park doesn't count). There is no centralized campus. There is no quaint college town with tree-lined streets. There isn't very much school spirit. It's expensive to live there. There are constant distractions that can and will draw you away from your work, family, and friends. It's lonely sometimes. Counseling might even suck. At some point, you will absolutely feel like a piece of cattle being prodded to enter the class room on the left. Fine. But NYU doesn't pretend to offer its students space, lawns, a CAMPUS, a best friend, a cohesive community, or a sports team to cheer for on the weekends. All NYU will offer is an educational experience unlike any other BECAUSE it's in New York City.
I didn't know Ms. Chien or the other students who committed suicide. The act of suicide is, obviously, deeply personal, and we, as observant outsiders, have no right to blame. It's possible a disappointing college experience had something to do with these deaths. It's also possible NYU had nothing to do with it. With such little credible information about this death and the others, to point a finger at NYU (or at a boyfriend or at a fight or at drugs or whatever) is simply irresponsible.
Simply stated, I believe that NYU and the City itself should not be so easily blamed or become quickly apologetic for being the big, noisy, crowded, stinky, lonely, infuriatingly expensive, amazingly diverse, and exciting hubs of perpetual action and distraction that they are.
But that's just me...
Why am I the first person to say this here?
GOTHAMIST.
GET THIS SHIT OFF YOUR FRONT PAGE NOW.
Reprinting the photo on your front page is as base and disgusting as The Post doing it in the first place. If you want to link to it for reference to what is being discussed, then by all means. I will know not to click, just as I know not to open The Post, but I can't know not to LOOK before I see it.
I did not want to see this again when just reading my sites, and it's only because I've just spewed my venom at The Post that I'm not hurling the same invective here.
Utter garbage.
You are right, the brand on the bag is nonsense and it would be disturbing for someone to give a shit what brand her bag was.
I mentioned her bag because I thought that it was odd someone committing suicide would jump with a bag AND jump backwards as well. Perhaps it was an accident or something more sinister.
Heres another picture of what could have happened. She went to the rooftop and stood by the edge threatening to jump. Perhaps she never was going to jump at all and merely and turned away holding her bag, to go back downstairs. She slips and falls backwards, accidently. The bag AND the fact she was falling backwards lead me to think that this might be the case, although it might not be.
If her death was ruled accidental, its a different story right? The photo would be instrumental in determining cause of death. If its determined that its NOT a suicide, we wouldn't want to treat it like one.
Remember not everyone threatening to commit suicide actually intends to carry it out.
To some degree, this debate echoes that surrounding the Boston Phoenix's decision to post a link to the video of Daniel Pearl's execution. The Phoenix's rationale is outlined at http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/editorial/documents/02299081.htm .
Some other thoughts:
-Crass as the Post's decision was, it clearly sparked a healthy debate and highlighted the issue of suicide, in general, and college-age suicide, in particular.
-Thank God we live in a relatively free society in which a variety of media provide a variety of content to a variety of audiences. Those who don't like the Post's---or the Gothamist's, for that matter---decisions don't HAVE to support these media with their quarters and mouseclicks and have other options.
-The world is sometimes (often?) random and brutal. As sensational and profit-hungry as they may be, tabloids force us to confront this.
-I wonder what the sentiment would be if Sadaam Hussein had committed suicide and it had been featured on the cover. How many would find it tasteless? How many would feel a catharsis, that "he got his"? And what relevance---if any---would the picture of his suicide have to the "hard" news of terrorism and Western relations with the Middle East?
hmm- it seems like there is room for opinions on both sides of the issue. though in general i'd err on not showing the picture if it doesn't add meaningful and substantial facts to the story. in a situation like this, the post has an obligation to be sensitive to the families involved, to the other students, etc. i think it's normally a policy at newspapers not to report on suicides for this reason, unless there is something unusual about the circumstances.
as for gothamist reprinting the image, part of this site is about commenting on the media, and unfortunately, the picture is now part of that story. in the future, though, i think we may link to the picture in a popup with a warning attached. do you guys think that would be better?
Jake:
The popup with warning would demonstrate that Gothamist had acknowledged that something potentially distressing awaited the reader/viewer. It would also put responsibility for proceeding squarely on the surfer's shoulders.
Separately, have you and Jen considered providing "table of contents" links to those topics that have generated the most discussion in a given period of time (day/week/month)? It might provide frequent readers/posters with an efficient means of skimming the site. Useful market/cultural research, too.
Jake,
That sounds like exactly what I was getting at - of course you need to include the cover that is being discussed. It's completely relevant.
However, using ANY sort of warning (mouseover for image, link to image, blurred), allows readers who find it offensive or harmful to make the choice themselves as to whether they want to see it.
Thanks for the thought on this - having run a print paper for a while, I know how hard it is to draw the line between reporting the facts, warts included, or making responsible decisions and possibly self-censoring.
On the web where you can give your users that choice, not censor yourselves and yet still be responsible, I think it just makes so much sense.
I agree it's probably not in good practice to reprint the Post cover simply because "it's already been published." The best similarity I can draw is how news organizations should not republish the name of a rape victim, even if some other publication has already disclosed it.
By reprinting the Post headline you're basically supporting what they did -- providing them with already more publicity for what the majority of us would seem to agree was an inappropriate decision by their editors.
Oh, and if the best reason to show that photo was so we could see her bag, the Post needs to get out of the newspaper business. I would hope that in a city this big, they can find better news items to run A1 than that.
The sickening irony is that the Post did mention her "white leather" purse today....
I read the Phoenix's justification for linking the Pearl Video, and I must say it IS very similar and the same rationale can be applied in this situation.
I still have questions to whether she intended to take that plunge. I might have taken the story as a given without the photo. I think its possible she may have fallen accidently.
If you think NYU's campus sucks... take a look at our school. Even worse...
Opinions of "shoddy" journalism? What do you expect
guys, ever heard of the "right to free speech"..or is
that only useful when "you" need to use it?
Listen, the plain fact of the matter is: society lauds
"achievements" and "where you went to school" as
prerequisite to a comfortable living, and this is the
price you must pay when you choose to see a person only
through those "eyes"!
Diana Chien, thru her parents providings, was a priviledged person of society who
probably never had to wonder "where" her next meal was
coming from, nor had to work 40+ hours a week to survive,
nor ever had to live with insects or rodents running thru
her home, and yet, this person makes a "educated"
decision to end her life, based on a romantic
entanglement, and you want everyone to honor her memory
and not publish her demise along with "other" such
tragedies of the world?. Grow up guys!
She was a spoiled, young educated women who made a
mistake (she made the choice) and dated a
man she only saw through "rose-colored" glasses, and
chose to kill herself when it did not "go" her way, and
you want to blame the media? No,
the blame and the way she handled the situation was all hers!(where was the educated "thought"
processes of such an intelligent mind?)--no doubt,
society only wants us to cry for the "scholastically"
given of the world, and the rest of us "plain" folks,
just get the newspaper "frontpage" headlines with our
demise?!
Life is hard, and even though she had the "smarts" to
attend good schools, only goes to show the world that she was
yet just another fool, who had the gift of educational "absorption" and the "true" intelligence of a rock!
I think the comments comparing the Post's (and by extension, NYUview's and The Gothamist's) decisions to publish the photo of Diana Chien's fall (not once but twice, thank you Post) to the Boston Phoenix's decision to make available the video of Daniel Pearl's beheading is a valid one. As a student of both Behavioral Sciences and Poli Sci, I followed the Pearl story closely and thought I could handle the video. I clicked off miliseconds after seeing the knife taken to his limp, lifeless body and immediately wished that I could have undone my decision. How do those who A) saw the Post photo Sunday then again on the front page "click off" the image printed, B) never wanted to see it in the first place do the same. 9/11 (to bring up the other comparison)united this nation in grief. The Post has only managed to exploit the grief of those who loved and knew this young woman for nothing other than to sell a few more papers. THIS is the freedom we are fighting to preserve in the war on terror?
I have known Diana for as long as I could remember. Our parents are best friends and we did everything together, we went on vacations, trick or treating, movies and much more. I don't have a sister, and I consider her to be one; she even called me brother. I have always admired her very much, she was so beautiful, mature, smart, and popular. She doesn't deserve to die in New York. I do blame the boyfriend for her death, it just pains me to see Diana's mom and the boyfriend Chris holding hands coming back from the airport on Monday.
But the good news is that Diana's Mom has finally come to her sense, and told Chris to go away and never come back after the funeral. I can't believe what he did the days after the Tragedy, instead of mourning for Diana, he was out playing cards, video computer, socializing, and selling his "love story" to the press while sleeping in Diana's bedroom in her parents' house! I know he maniputated Diana because he knew she was rich, he realize that he couldn't keep her for long, so he forbid her to talk to anyone or have any friends guys or girls. What kind of boyfriend is that, what kind of relationship is that?
Diana doesn't love Chris anymore, anyone could see that, why do you think she jumped when Chris was calling to her? Obviously, I couldn't get any sleep tonight, toworrow is her funeral. Diana had such a bright future, her death hasn't really register for me yet, but maybe it will toworrow at the funeral.
I am so sorry this young lady died. But stop harrassing the press for publishing this photo. Also stop talking about the boyfriend. The sad thing is that the only ones who are going to morn her forever are her family and friends and this young lady did not turn to them or think about them when she decided to take her life away. If she really killed herself over this boy- the sad reality is that this boy will go on living and problably not think about her too much in a couple of years. But her parents and friends will remember her forever. Suicide is a very selfish act.
My heart goes out to her family, her boyfriend, friends, and anyone who knew her. I have read all sorts of reports about her death, and I don't know what to believe because they all conflict with each other. Some blame the boyfriend, others blame NYU's social life, either way, it doesn't matter. The most important thing here is that a young life has been taken. May the Lord walk with her by her side. Rest In Peace Diana.
Why are most people neglecting the fact that she may have fallen accidentally?
MIKE- do you know diana? her thoughts, her beliefs, and her problems?
Just because someone is rich does not mean that they cannot have problems... maybe you cant see this, but money is not everything. there are bigger issues to life. rich parents do not equal an easy life. sometimes money can even make things worse. Not having to worry about where your next meal is coming from gives you the time to think about life, death, and everything inbetween
you have no idea what kind of problems she was facing. All you have to base your opinion on is some newspaper clippings... even if she did jump because of her boyfriend there were surely deeper issues at hand.
plenty of intelligent people have committed suicide. dont assume that she was a spoiled brat and that doesnt deserve peoples symathies.
For those out there who can't grasp the emotional distress that the family/friends are going through from THIS picture, just imagine that it was your brother/sister/mother or father falling from the building. It's difficult to be sympathetic to those we aren't emotionally attached to.
This isn't about blaming the media.
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Somebody like Mike obviously is jealous and wishes he got his 15 seconds of fame. Well, he sure did. Who are YOU to judge? Who are you to judge who Diana was or what she did when you did not even know her. All you did was read one page on her death and you came to a conclusion about her life. If you consider yourself a plain folk, good riddance...because that is what you are. You've shown yourself to be low class with your reaction.
I have actually known Chris Lam all my life. He is not a bad guy. I do not understand why people are blamming him for Diana's death. His mother told me that he had to hire bodyguards just so he can be safe from other people. He is not at fault. Did he push her? Was he there when Diana jumped? No! No matter what troubles anyone goes through, it is their own choice of what to do. Don't blame Chris. He had to leave New York due to the threats he has recieved. It would not have been such a big deal if this picture of Diana had not been posting. I believe it is unappropriate and very hurting to many people.
I have actually known Chris Lam all my life. He is not a bad guy. I do not understand why people are blamming him for Diana's death. His mother told me that he had to hire bodyguards just so he can be safe from other people. He is not at fault. Did he push her? Was he there when Diana jumped? No! No matter what troubles anyone goes through, it is their own choice of what to do. Don't blame Chris. He had to leave New York due to the threats he has recieved. It would not have been such a big deal if this picture of Diana had not been posting. I believe it is unappropriate and very hurting to many people.
I have actually known Chris Lam for most of my life. He is not a bad guy. I do not understand why people are blamming him for Diana's death. His mother told me that he had to hire bodyguards just so he can be safe from other people. He is not at fault. Did he push her? Was he there when Diana jumped? No! No matter what troubles anyone goes through, it is their own choice of what to do. Don't blame Chris. He had to leave New York due to the threats he has recieved. It would not have been such a big deal if this picture of Diana had not been posting. I believe it is unappropriate and very hurting to many people.
you are obviously recovering from a stroke. please don't think you know what you're talking about
RIP Diana
RIP Diana
chris lam recently tried to hit on one of my friends, only a mere two months after Diana's death. Does that tell you what kind of a person he is?
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Asian loser who got picked on in hs + joining Lambda Phi Epsilon (an organization uniting bullied asian boys with the need to outwardly channel this internal hatred for oneself by pretending to be gangsters and players) = Chris Lam. There are more like him in LPhiE..that's the funny part. SFGirl, I know Chris Lam, he's the biggest poser I've ever met. I get a good laugh out of him and his kind. They're good for entertainment I suppose...
Why is everyone so surprised by the NY Post's decision to publish this? People who read the paper are typical vulgar citizens who have pea-sized brains and, unfortunately, the majority of the US votes.
My heart goes all to the friends and family of the young student who recently passed.
In any event, I think its disturbing that the trashy post would do such a thing.The post is like reading the national inquirer, so go figure. It is extremely wrong, and takes away from the positive memories of that young lady.
Three phrases should be among the most common in our daily usage. They are: Thank you, I am grateful and I appreciate.
I agree with you the way you view the issue. I remember Jack London once said everything positive has a negative side; everything negative has positive side. It is also interesting to see different viewpoints & learn useful things in the discussion.
I remember Jack London once said everything positive has a negative side; everything negative has positive side. It is also interesting to see different viewpoints & learn useful things in the discussion.
Il buon lavoro fatto con questo luogo ed io conoscono di che cosa sto parlando:)