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Today, public hearings begin on a new subway line that would run along Second Avenue, from 125th Street to the southern tip of Manhattan. The Daily News lists disruptions on the streets, crazy traffic congestion, relocating residents and businesses, five construction sites along the route, 20-30 foot noise barriers, and the temporary loss of six city parks among the effects of building a new subway line.
Gothamist is extremely relieved that we live nowhere near Second Avenue - we understand the need for more transportation options and subways are definitely too crowded, but the trouble seems to outweigh the benefits. Construction would take 12-16 years, probably more like 20. Granted, we've yet to get our hands on the full proposal. Gothamist will pore through the proposal and update later.
Presentations take place at 4PM and 6:30PM:
Today, at Alexander Hamilton U.S. Custom House at 1 Bowling Green.
Tomorrow, at Museo Del Barrio, Heckscher Building, at Fifth Ave. and 104th St.
Members of the public will get to speak.
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speaking as someone who lives nowhere near second avenue, and rarely ventures over there, i'd like to express my hearty support for 20 years of construction in that area. after all, it'll probably ease the crowding on the 4/5/6 by at least two people per car at rush hour. you just can't argue with results like that.
The full proposal is available on the MTA's website.
Thanks, Casey, will update accordingly.
I've never understood why it's a "2nd Avenue" line. Given that the problem is underservice of the East Side, why not put the line where it best addresses that problem - like 1st Ave.
As someone who trekked from east of York Street to the 6 each morning for several years, I strongly support the 2nd Ave line. Eliot's right, though. A 1st Ave line makes much more sense. Regardless, it would make riding the 6 far more pleasant. Plans for this line have been in and out of works for many years. I don't see how the city has enough money right now to do it...and if they do, I want my 50 cents per ride back, retroactive as of May 4.
i sympathize (interruptions) and support (service improvements)...just as long as the MTA stays away from major work on the uptown a/b/c/d tain line.
This project has been on-again off-again for so long that bits of it have already been built and lie beneath the streets, unused.
"...but the trouble seems to outweigh the benefits. Construction would take 12-16 years, probably more like 20."
Thank god city residents weren't thinking this way in the first part of the 20th century. This city would be impossible with out the investments they made. Let's do the same for future generations.
Yeah, I admit it, I'm being selfish - I'm being selfish because 2nd Avenue is such a nice road to travel to the East Village on, via bus or car. Let's construct for many years.
I know a bunch of people working as engineers on the project, and as far as they're concerned, its a sure thing. I mean, geez, they have their own business cards that say "2nd Avenue Subway" instead of their actual company---how cool is that!
Actually, there are already two Subways on 2nd Avenue -- one at 74th and one at 84th.
I live at 86th & 2nd Ave. and am TOTALLY AGAINST a 2nd Avenue Line. A number of the subway stations are going to destroy buildings built in the early 1900s, (wiping out more of NYC's history), not to mention displacing a number of people from their apartments before they're torn down. You don't like to walk a couple of extra blocks to catch the 4, 5, or 6? Tough! You should move then. This is New York and you should be used to walking. I don't want to see my neighborhood destroyed, just so some people don't have to be inconvenienced.
A few extra blocks? Tell that to the people who live on Avenue C. Alphabet City is becoming more and more developed, and there needs to be a subway line closer to the neighborhood. Though I'm still mildly shocked to see luxury apartment buildings sprouting up over there, they do exist and the new traffic just adds to the transportation problem. Plus, all the people in the Avenue D projects could really use a train that's less than eight long blocks away. That's pretty "inconvenient."
Does anyone know how to find out which buildings are being knocked down? I am considering buying an apartment on 85th and 2nd avenue.